ILX TOP 50 FILMS OF 2000-2004 BALLOTS/VOTING - ends Jan. 3

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(Speaking of non-English-speaking films.)

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

My ballot:

1. Cast Away (Zemeckis, 2000)
2. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
3. About a Boy (Weitz, 2002)
4. The Village (Shyamalan, 2004)
5. How's Your News? (Bradford, 2001)
6. Los Angeles Plays Itself (Andersen, 2003)
7. The Yes Men (Ollman, Price, 2003)
8. Legally Blonde (Luketic, 2001)
9. White Diamond (Herzog, 2004)
10. School of Rock (Linklater, 2003)
11. Meet the Parents (Roach, 2000)
12. Best in Show (Guest, 2000)
13. Sideways (Payne, 2004)
14. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
15. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)

Three least-favorite films:

Irreversible (Noe, 2002)
Monster's Ball (Forster, 2001)
Fat Girl (Breillat, 2001)

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see nearly enough non-English-speaking films. But it doesn't help when people hype transgressively soulless crap like Baise Moi and Irreversible and Fat Girl, or skilled failures like In the Mood for Love (which puts me in the mood for sleep) and Bus 174 (which plays on the basest sense of reality-TV dread)...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 22 December 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the problem is that the non-American films that get most hyped are often exactly the "controversial" ones, which often suck regardless - or because - of their "shocking" content - Irreversible and Ichi the Killer are fine examples on this poll. The more quiet yet lovely films that have little controversial in them - such as Look at Me, The Waiting List, or Kitchen Stories (all of which are in my personal top 5) - get far less attention.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, The Waiting List probably didn't get much attention in the US also because it's made in Cuba, and it's sorta pro-socialism (though not pro-Castro in any way, more like pro-socialism-as-an-unreached-dream).

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's my ballot, loads of non-English speaking! Plus hours of non speaking full stop in the case of numbers 1 and 5.

1. Cremaster 3 (Barney, 2002)
2. The Werckmeister Harmonies (Tarr, 2000)
3. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2001)
4. City Of God (Meirelles, Lund, 2002)
5. Belleville Rendezvous / Triplets Of Belleville (Chomet, 2003)
6. The Isle / Seom (Kim, 2000)
7. A Time For Drunken Horses (Ghobadi, 2000)
8. Tropical Malady (Weerasethakul, 2004)
9. Avalon (Oshii, 2001)
10. Songs from the Second Floor (Andersson, 2000)
11. Memories Of Murder (Bong, 2003)
12. Spider (Cronenberg, 2002)
13. Kung Fu Hustle (Chow, 2004)
14. Nobody Knows (Koreeda, 2004)
15. Little Otik (Svankmajer, 2000)

And the three shittiest films of the decade are :

Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (Tarantino, 2003)
Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)

I'm sure there's way shittier, but why would I bother sitting through them when I could watch something good?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 December 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot to add my three least-favorite when I sent my ballot, so:

About Schmidt
Charlie's Angels
Moulin Rouge

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 22 December 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

You should all rent Decasia over the holidays.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

This was my ballot:

1. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (Coen, 2000)
2. In the Mood for Love (Wong, 2000)
3. Master And Commander: The Far Side of the World (Weir, 2003)
4. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2001)
5. Kill Bill: Vol.2 (Tarantino, 2004)
6. Spellbound (Blitz, 2002)
7. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)
8. The Royal Tenenbaums (Anderson, 2001)
9. Sideways (Payne, 2004)
10. Shaun of the Dead (Wright, 2004)
11. Bad Santa (Zwigoff, 2003)
12. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
13. Together (Chen, 2002)
14. Napoleon Dynamite (Hess, 2004)
15. Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)

Worst (of the ones I've seen):
The Corporation (Abbott, Achbar, 2003)
The Hours (Daldry, 2002)
...there weren't any others I really disliked from this list

o. nate (onate), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot to add my three least-favorite when I sent my ballot, so:
About Schmidt

Hurrah!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm i might have voted for the Aviator if i was thinking straight. oh well! maybe in the 2000-2009 poll?

gear (gear), Monday, 26 December 2005 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Y'all are crazy stupid voting on this shit NOW. None of you have any clue what your favorite movies from this period are, because you aren't even going to know about a good bunch of them that have already come out but that no one will hear about for another five to ten years.

Good job validating the box office bitches.

Pinhead, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Two days left.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i haven't read the thread beyond the first few posts but can someone tell me if i can vote for films that are not on the list?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

jed I think you can

1) Together (Moodysson, 2001)
2) Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
3) Monsters Inc. (Docter, Silverman, 2001)
4) Talk to Her / Hable con ella
5) Amandla! A Revolution In Four Part Harmony (Hirsch, 2002)
6) You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)
7) Dude, Where's My Car (Leiner, 2000)
8) The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen, 2001)
9) Waking Life (Linklater, 2001)
10)Shaolin Soccer (Chow, 2001)
11)The Corporation (Abbott, Achbar, 2004)
12)Bad Santa (Zwigoff, 2003)
13) Lost in Translation (Coppola, 2003)
14) Scratch (Pray, 2001)
15)The Incredibles (Bird, 2004)

least favorite:
Amelie
El Crimen del padre Amaro
Lord Of The Rings: Return of The King

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks, i just did. i guess that will be the one and only vote for Samira Makhalbaf's "The Apple".

jed_ (jed), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a closed ballot, sorry. Just the nominees from above.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link

well i don't suppose it maters much and it was worth voting for on principle (also tbh i had a hard time choosing 15 films from the list).

jed_ (jed), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link

tremendoid, it's scary how similar are our tastes:

Same for #1, 5/15 on the rest, 1/3 on least favorites.

remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 2 January 2006 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

you'll get closer next year don't worry;) my list reads to me like the slow agonizing death of my inner film geek in the last 2 or 3 years. I love all those movies but I didn't have much of a pool to choose from when it came down to it. I probably saw 5 films in the theater last year- all domestic, le sigh.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 2 January 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

1 High Fidelity (2000)
2 In The Mood For Love (2000)
3 Failan (2001)
4 Dark Days (2000)
5 Memories Of Murder (2003)
6 Chopper (2000)
7 Lost In Translation (2003)
8 One Day In September (2000)
9 24 Hour Party People (2002)
10 Oldboy (2003)
11 Before Sunset (2004)
12 The Return (2003)
13 Ichi The Killer (2001)
14 You Can Count on Me (2000)
15 Battlefield Baseball (2003)

Most Hated

Moulin Rouge! (2001)
Rules Of Attraction (2002)
Avalon (2001)

Mil (Mil), Monday, 2 January 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link

So... a few hours left.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

1. The Pianist
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3. Oldboy
4. Battle Royale
5. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
6. Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle
7. Good-Bye, Lenin!
8. Pirates of the Caribbean
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1
10. The Royal Tenanbaums
11. Shaun of the Dead
12. Master and Commander
13. Bend it Like Beckham
14. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
15. I Heart Huckabees

Worst:
1. The Company
2. Down With Love
3. Dogville

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll post this now that the poll is almost over:

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. All the Real Girls
3. You Can Count on Me
4. 25th Hour
5. Mulholland Dr.
6. Talk to Her
7. Together
8. Spirited Away
9. Lost in Translation
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
11. Collateral
12. Before Sunset
13. Far From Heaven
14. Y Tu Mama Tambien
15. Spellbound

WORST
About Schmidt
Igby Goes Down
Waking Life

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

(Jocelyn, I love The Company! A really lovely underrated film.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link


1. What Time is It There? (Tsai, 2001)
2. Eureka (Aoyama, 2000)
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
4. Far from Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
5. Decasia (Morrison, 2002)
6. The Son (Dardenne, 2002)
7. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
8. Les Destinees Sentimentales (Assayas, 2000)
9. Ratcatcher (Ramsay, 2000)
10. The Saddest Music in the World (Maddin, 2003)
11. The Gleaners and I (Varda, 2001)
12. 2046 (Wong, 2004)
13. Crimson Gold (Panahi, 2003)
14. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)
15. Pulse (Kurosawa, 2001)


HATE HATE HATE
Napoleon Dynamite (Hess, 2004)
Irreversible (Noe, 2002)
Dancer In the Dark (von Trier, 2000)
(wish I'd had room for Amelie and Y Tu Mama Tambien)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Results may take a couple of weeks to formulate. I can't find which box I put my Office v.X disc in, so I've either got to find it or break down and use OpenOffice.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

1. The Incredibles (Bird, 2004)
2. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2001)
3. Legally Blonde (Luketic, 2001)
4. Monsters Inc. (Docter, Silverman, 2001)
5. Memento (Nolan, 2001)
6. The Royal Tenenbaums (Anderson, 2001)
7. Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
8. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
9. The Royal Tenenbaums (Anderson, 2001)
10. Finding Nemo (Stanton, Unkrich, 2003)
11. Bend it Like Beckham (Chadha, 2002)
12. The Pianist (Polanski, 2002)
13. Spider-Man 2 (Raimi, 2004)
14. Secretary (Shainberg, 2002)
15. Belleville Rendesvouz / Triplets Of Belleville (Chomet, 2003)

I forget what I hate. Moulin Rouge was one.

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Voting for the same film twice is cheating! I think.
Btw I spelt Belleville Rendezvous wrong when I nominated it, a mistake that's being repeated all through the thread. Grr.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i only picked 9. i've only seen 30 of the nominated films and i didn't think 21 of them were worth voting for.

best
1. bad education
2. head on
3. ratcatcher
4. in the mood for love
5. dark days
6. talk to her
7. george washington
8. the gleaners and i
9. the corporation

worst
1. bend it like beckham
2. waking life
3. million dollar baby

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Code Unknown
2. Mulholland Dr.
3. The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf)
4. Irreversible
5. In The Mood For Love
6. Cremaster 3
7. Ratcatcher
8. Punch Drunk Love
9. The House of Mirth
10. The Piano Teacher
11. You Can Count on Me
12. Far From Heaven
13. The Wonder Boys
14. The Piano Teacher
15. The Werckmeister Harmonies

i put on The Apple before knowing it was ineligable. i actually got to about #10 before running out of films i really loved but i still like everything on the list a fair bit.

unfaves:

City of God
The Royal Tennenbaums
Kill Bill Vol 2

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

ARGH. At least I was inconsistent in ranking Tenenbaums. Milo, should I submit a revised ballot??

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been trying to find the apple!

xpost

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I saw The Apple in 1998. Or is that your point?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

no, i just want to see it and kind find it anywhere

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Sure, just submit a new one and I'll delete the other.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh sorry Caitlin, that was meant for jed, not you: I was trying to figure out whether he meant it was ineligible because no one nominated it, or because it wasn't actually from this decade.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, no actually, i thought it was 2001 but yr right.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sent a few days ago:

01 Yi Yi
02 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
03 Punch-Drunk Love
04 Donnie Darko
05 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
06 Lost in Translation
07 All About Lily Chou-Chou
08 In the Mood for Love
09 Mulholland Drive
10 The Corporation
11 Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
12 Kill Bill, vol. 1
13 Gerry
14 Sin City
15 Undertow

Tarnation would have squeezed in if I'd remembered to nominate it. And I really want to see Spirited Away again, I watched it at like 3am and fell asleep. :(

sleep (sleep), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Well that was convenient timing: TCM is doing a Miyazaki retrospective and they showed Spirited Away last night!

sleep (sleep), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

even the subtitled print at 2am.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't believe I forgot to nominate Primer. I haven't seen Donnie Darko yet. And pretty many others, too. And here's my ballot from a while ago:

My Favorites of 2000-2004
1. Punch Drunk Love
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3. Spellbound
4. The Royal Tenenbaums
5. Before Sunset
6. Belleville Rendezvouz/Triplets of Belleville
7. Sideways
8. About a Boy
9. Good Bye Lenin!
10. Gosford Park
11. Snatch
12. Million Dollar Baby
13. Saved!
14. Downfall
15. Mean Girls

Worst Three:
1. The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring
2. Minority Report
3. Elf

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

shit, I didn't see this thread until JUST NOW :(

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

That's OK, lotsa folks already voted for How I Won the War in this one too!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but I was going to #1 Zoolander. Fucked everything up now.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm having shit luck finding my Office disc and may need to get a new one from the university, so I could extend voting another week if a few people want to get ballots in.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

NO WAY. Cook County crap!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
How did my film get on this list? Who are you people. Something strange is afoot. Director 'The Good, The Bad and The Chorley'

Krystal Gault, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

What's happening with this anyway? Erick?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I got slammed with school and work, as I couldn't find my Office fast enough. I have all the ballots, I'm going to start counting two or three a night.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link


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