John Cusack's best movie

How old where you when you first saw it HS? Have you always felt this way?

lol sorry - it's just really interesting to me because I'm trying to remember details now and it's been too long.

i first saw it as a kid at one million slumber parties. i don't think i felt this way explicitly, but i just didn't like it as much as i felt like i was supposed to. "i want to be with your daughter" always bugged me and also...i don't know something about the whole lloyd is obsessed with this girl and she needs a way to get away from her dad unequal affections thing depressed me, too. although i guess that's fairly realistic. but yeah, i think i started explicitly thinking of it as creepy only after seeing jerry maguire and doing some retroactive cameron crowe criticism.

kept wishing the movie was about lili taylor

I wd like to do "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" a la Mahoney at karaoke

john mahoney is so great in this movie tbf

cameron crowe is really nasty stuff. fast times exempted, maybe

i've never seen SA tbh

he scored nancy wilson so i hope he's not a supercreep irl

I mean I think I can sort of see where you're coming from even though I never felt that myself. It's probably been 10 years since I've seen it though so I'd be interested to see what I think of it in light of this discussion. "i want to be with your daughter" - I still think that parts def just sweet though. ;)

I wd like to do "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" a la Mahoney at karaoke

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I think of him singing along every time I hear that song.

IS HE NOT GOING TO GET A JOB OR AN IDENTITY OR WHAT THE FUCK

man ive never seen 'say anything'... wish this thread cld start being abt what a nutso movie 'identity' is tbh

x-post He doesn't know yet who he is or what he wants to do with his life but he's sure that he wants her in it - sometimes stuff happens and people feel that way and that's OK!

It's OK though HS. You don't have to like it.

haha i'm sorry

i think years of suppressing my issues with that movie and nodding politely about how much everyone loves it have taken a toll

haha lamp OTM, "Identity" is an extended WTF

IS HE NOT GOING TO GET A JOB OR AN IDENTITY OR WHAT THE FUCK

― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

he's a kickboxer who loves the clash!

i know and he doesn't want to process anything bought or sold i know

hahahahaha

this is tough but my favorite ~movie~ out of these is grifters, hands down, tho it's not his best performance by any means

being john malkovich is a really strong contender for my vote, too

gbp is plenty of fun but the scene where he's holding some random baby and has an *epiphany* 80s soundtrack moment somehow just fucks up the whole movie for me

the grifter is v v good, but it's all about anjelica huston, so yeah it feels like not the right vote for this poll

that's about the best you can get out of a 19-year-old

xxp

We have a tendency to reduce behavior these days to psychobabble. I had a discussion the other day in class about "stalking." Apparently it's "stalking" to follow a girl when you both leave class, catch up, and ask for her phone number. The girl who complained said he had "issues."

you know i always htought the baby scene in gpb was hokey and it took me out of the movie, but then i saw it as an adult and it made me bawl, so

identity = best worst twist ending EVAH

gbp is plenty of fun but the scene where he's holding some random baby and has an *epiphany* 80s soundtrack moment somehow just fucks up the whole movie for me

well it does help that the baby is ugly.

are you accusing me of psychobabble, alfred? because i can live with that.

don't have a problem with lloyd in say anything, he's a teenager. if ione skye weren't drained of everything but her complexion and john mahoney didn't bug his eyes out psychotically while howling "I MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER" i might be more into it.

identity = best worst twist ending EVAH

OTM^infinity

it might be just my affection for "Let My Love Open The Door" but i like that scene

say anything's dad is a crook ending bothered me more than the cusack. voting malkovich, watched it a few days ago actually.

I have never seen "Say Anything" but the soundtrack has the only Replacements song I really love on it

identity is unspeakably bad

say anything is pretty dumb

cameron crowe is horrible, essentially a war criminal

will never be able to disassociate cusack from terrible faux-nostalgia for his 80s movies on the part of various get up kids-loving high school friends of mine

grifters and grosse point blank are pretty good though

cusack as edgar allen poe:

http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/john-cusack-as-edgar-allan-poe-full-15-11-10-kc.jpg

it's just that the movie doesn't think he's creepy? or maybe it does and i'm not giving crowe enough credit.

I can't think of any evidence in the cameron crowe oeuvre that he thinks this is anything other than the definition of romance.

they're all very "and i saw her standing there"

Love is when you give a girl your garage door opener and she accepts.

i am going to shut up about this one day but i just want to repeat, it's not so much that lloyd is a creep--i have been that creep, especially when i was a teenager--it's that cameron crowe seems to think all that stuff is really romantic and what life is all about and that being romantically linked to another person is a goddamn vocation and all of that really bugs me.

xp da croupier said it much more succinctly

xp i like almost famous! the girl leaves in almost famous.

and the boy gets a job.

say anything annoys me because it seems like its supposed to be about lloyd dobler growing up? ("be a man not a guy"?) but he never really does

Love is when you give a girl your garage door opener and she accepts.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:34 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

i think the reason i can deal with singles is because campbell scott is foxier than any other crowe hero. also 90s fashion.

Crowe also thinks that if you seduce a girl with the right song - preferably by a white guitar guy – she'll lead you into her secret garden.

and the boy gets a job.
--my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour)

yeah but that job is to be cameron crowe

romantically linked to another person is a goddamn vocation

Yes that's annoying. On the other hand I do sort of believe that life is all about love and which is probably why I buy into a lot of sappy shit that you'd probably find intolerable.

Crowe also thinks that if you seduce a girl with the right song - preferably by a white guitar guy – she'll lead you into her secret garden.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:36 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark

well i mean cliched and boring and low-level offensive sure but untrue no

sure life is about love but not necessarily courtship

i like almost all the sappy shit in the world that is unconnected to cameron crowe--i cried when john cusack holds the baby in grosse point blank!