Coppola post-Apocalypse Now

what do I like about Peggy Sue... pretty much every scene with Nicolas Cage in doowop greaser mode, his line readings are hilarious. I have a soft spot for Kathleen Turner as well. the time travel/paradox/"what if I had my life to live over?" was given some real emotional resonance. the greaser/beatnik guy.

I haven't seen it in a long time, maybe it's clunkier than I remember.

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i remember my family attempted to take in a viewing of peggy sue gets married but it was sold out, dont think i ever saw it

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yeah, i dunno, cage seems to verging in on something great in that movie, but ends up being kind of terrible imo. sort of a weird, risky performance i guess, but ...

the greaser/beatnik guy

lol

What was that character's name? I wasn't saying that was my choice last night btw. I haven't seen this in at least 15 years. I just feel like I watched it a lot when I was a kid and remember it being really really strange.

yeah it was on TV a LOT for some reason in the mid-90s?

(btw since we're sharing important coppola stories, was just in sonoma last weekend and considered going to his winery, but didn't)

good thing, since his winery is in Napa

nope in sonoma. drove right past it.

the one scene that really sticks with me is the one in the basement where Peggy is telling Nic Cage that he's never gonna make it as a singer and he should be more realistic and whatever and he's just not having any of it/cannot take the blow to his ego (afore-ref'd "I've got the TEETH! I've got the HAIR!" line) - it's just so strange and sad. I react to the scene in Freaks and Geeks where Nick says he'll never be the guy on the drum riser, maybe if he's lucky he'll be the guy who pushes the button that makes the drum riser go up and down... something about that terrible despair of youthful naivete being crushed. I dunno, it gets me.

the time travel/paradox/"what if I had my life to live over?" was given some real emotional resonance

otm. a lot of these i haven't seen, but iirc The Rainmaker isn't terrible and Rumblefish is better than the Outsiders. it would prob come down between Rumblefish & Peggy Sue for me.

to expand on that I appreciate how the time travel thing isn't handled in a glib/gimmicky/silly way (a la say Terminator or Back to the Future) - instead it all hinges on Peggy trying to realize her desires about making things different but being ultimately unable to, she repeats the past because she can't help herself.

The Rainmaker has terrific performances by the supporting cast. Marred by Claire Danes, Matt Damon's distracting floppy hair, and Grisham's dumb Manichean plot dynamics.

the outsiders is not very good, but i don't think that's coppola's fault. the acting is so bad. he does a nice job matching sound to image iirc.

he does to those Hinton novels what Spielberg did to The Color Purple.

nope in sonoma. drove right past it.

lol there are two of them, apparently! who knew?

i guess i didn't! definitely hard to miss from the 101 in sonoma. though i was hoping it'd be shaped like an enormous patrol boat from apocalypse now.

yeah Coppola is in Sonoma, NIEBAUM-Coppola is in Napa; we went to NC and kind of crashed the reserve tasting room (which was the BOMB)

Kevin J O'Connor is v hot in Peggy Sue

also an early Jim Carrey appearance

laurence fishburne played the same character in 'the cotton club' as he played in 'hoodlum'! ed o'ross was also in both of those films.

should have had fishburne play bumpy in 'american gangster' as well.

godfather III better not get a single vote. if it does, i demand identities so I can SB without abandon

point of pedantry, you mean with abandon

you see what thinking of that movie does to his grammar?

http://thestuffyougottawatch.com/picse-h/gof3a.jpg

he's working on a prequel trilogy i hear

who'd he cast as Obi-Wan?

ben corleone

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lol Alfred

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lols

Leave the light saber. Take the canoli.

Wish I could come up with some good lines. I only know one of the franchises, though.

"Help me, Michael Corleone. You're our only hope..."

clemenza I know it's just a display name but every time you post i sorta picture the actual Clemenza posting....

diff movie, but it is sort of funny that harrison ford's one apocalypse now scene has lines about "the dark side" ...

I was going to post this on the WDYLL thread, but I guess I'll put it here:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110106190642/godfather/images/4/42/Young_Clemenza.png

lol

Peggy Sue Got Married. there's a strange eerie beautiful atmosphere at least in the first half and the scene where she meets her Grandma who has died in the 'present' is wonderful.

critics raved about Tucker didn't they?

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totally would have voted for One From The Heart

it's really quite odd

I would've too, but I threw support behind Tetro, since it seemed a more viable contender.

I find Peggy Sue Got Married really compelling for some reason I don't entirely fathom. I think it's because it just seems so emotionally honest, it's sentimentality doesn't feel cheap or unearned. It's one of those things I will always watch if it happens to be on.

I remember Peggy Sue being tonally messy, but the scene with the grandparents destroyed me at the time, probably because I watched it not long after my own grandfather passed away.

the whole thing has this mixture of sweetness and pain, it's a fine balance. Someone like Zemeckis or Spielberg would have driven home the hamfisted "and then she realized what she needed all along was what she already had" point in a less nuanced way, a standard "unhappy protagonist learns a lesson about being happy" way. I guess really it's a variation on "It's a Wonderful Life" (which I also still find really emotionally rich and compelling). It's characters are so well drawn and sympathetic, they're given a complexity that rings true - Cage's Charlie is both a smalltown dimbulb with delusions of grandeur and a genuinely caring romantic, but she can't have one without the other, they're essential parts of his makeup.

plus it's funny.

Turner is luminous in that grandmother scene.