you should keep reading; it's not going to diminish your wanting to see the show.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 17 June 2011 03:21 (fifteen years ago)
its hard for me to imagine someone regretting reading the books. especially regretting reading the books in order to watch stuff happen on the show first
― ☂ (max), Friday, 17 June 2011 03:24 (fifteen years ago)
reading the books made the show better...I think I said this way upthread somewhere, but the show helped me to better picture the minor characters as I was reading, and I was pleased to find that knowing what was going to happen didn't spoil the show because HOW they make it happen from a writing standpoint has been really kind of interesting for me. They've truncated it enough for the screen to make sense, and though some of the exposition scenes can get a bit much, I am really enjoying the subtle and bigger changes in the story. Like a slight redux or something.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 June 2011 03:34 (fifteen years ago)
I plan to finish out the show and then start reading from the beginning of book 2. I tried starting book 1 midway through the series but I was so bored reading stuff that I had already seen happen. I'm hoping I'll be able to avoid that by reading completely new material.
― Mordy, Friday, 17 June 2011 04:32 (fifteen years ago)
I was so bored reading stuff that I had already seen happen.
Definitely ran into this after Ned dies! Like, I was at the point where Nymeria noms in Joffrey's arm, and it felt inconsequential compared to what just happened in the show.
Reading the collective advice though is helpful, probably will continue on with all the books. (The dilemma -- or my dilemma -- is definitely rooted in inherent cultural preference for visual arts, where all stories are supposed to culminate in tv/film productions.)
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Friday, 17 June 2011 05:00 (fifteen years ago)
I actually prefer books but it's not like GRRM has a lot of "literary" pleasures in his books. He's a great writer of plot, but if you already know what's gonna happen bc of the show...
― Mordy, Friday, 17 June 2011 05:01 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm definitely reading GOT in a pulp mode, which reminds me of a quotation from the NYer article where one of GRRM's haters is all, "[The first three books in the series are] the finest novels I’ve ever read," and I'm like, read much?
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Friday, 17 June 2011 05:06 (fifteen years ago)
The main things the book have got going for them over the show is the humor - the spiteful things every character thinks of everyone else.
― abcfsk, Friday, 17 June 2011 06:14 (fifteen years ago)
Just rewatched ep 5 and found Arya's "I'm not a boy!" reaction pretty lol.
Also forgot how great the Robert/Cersei scene was.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 06:39 (fifteen years ago)
And didn't realize the first time around that the Spider was talking to the Merchant from across the Narrow Sea about Stark looking into the bastards etc
kinda stupid question perhaps...but i looked on amazon and it was really fucking confusing seeing which book was what, or which collections had all the books, some people were even complaining one "set" was missing a book...
is there a definitive way of buying them all at once or what's the cheapest way? which way are you all reading them?
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Friday, 17 June 2011 08:31 (fifteen years ago)
This is what you want LG. There are no books missing from it (apart from the 5th one which isn't actually out for another month)http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61RXUvc1PwL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Song-Ice-Fire-4v-Thrones/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308304792&sr=8-1
― Number None, Friday, 17 June 2011 10:02 (fifteen years ago)
― Mordy, Friday, June 17, 2011 1:01 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
sure, but the books are much deeper and you dont have to worry about cruddy actors or ugly sets or exposition being crammed into lesbian hooker sex. they have a budget of infinity!
― ☂ (max), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:21 (fifteen years ago)
i'm not sure about the claim that they're 'deeper' but i'm more and more befuddled by the HBOzation of this already fairly HBOish set of books
like i was reading the wiki for it and they have introduced one new character, 'roz' -- she is portrayed by a glamour model and was given a name in the xth episode after being previously identified in the scripts as 'red-headed whore'
stay classy, HBO
― thomp, Friday, 17 June 2011 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
"deeper" in the sense that theres "more plot/more explanation" not like thematically deeper
― ☂ (max), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:44 (fifteen years ago)
they should have called her "exposition whore" since that is her plot function
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:45 (fifteen years ago)
lolz
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 17 June 2011 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
i thought Ros was the redhead barmaid that Theon gets it on with in the books, or i assume at least based on her?
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 17 June 2011 14:21 (fifteen years ago)
she is, and she comes south.
― remy bean, Friday, 17 June 2011 14:21 (fifteen years ago)
huh huh
In the UK, Book 3 is split into two. This might have caused confusion. It also makes me wonder if they'll split book 3 into two seasons.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
they should conflate books two and three
― thomp, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
It does kinda sound like they're doing that. In the interview with the creators in the LA Times they said they would be bringing elements of the third book into season two, so that certain characters who don't get up to much in the book don't get forgotten by viewers.
― Number None, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i'm sort of wondering if that strategy, in the long run, might also serve to shorten the number of seasons ie give them a better crack at finishing the series in less than seven arcs
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Friday, 17 June 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
sure, but the books are much deeper and you dont have to worry about cruddy actors or ugly sets or exposition being crammed into lesbian hooker sex.
What if I like lesbian hooker sex?
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Saturday, 18 June 2011 07:05 (fifteen years ago)
When Sansa says she doesn't want a strong, honest, good man because she wants Joffrey, does the book adequately capture the lolz that come from Arya and Ned's exchange of smirking glances?
― Gukbe, Saturday, 18 June 2011 07:15 (fifteen years ago)
wow, the 'no spoilers please' thing has really been abandoned by this thread, i should stop checking it
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)
i think "no spoilers" refers to "no spoilers past what's happened on the show"
― ☂ (max), Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
otherwise... why have a thread about a tv show
― ☂ (max), Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
i thought i had seen something that hadn't happened on the most recent episode -- could be mistaken though
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
The interview with the showrunners upthread has a fairly sizable spoiler in like the first sentence.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 18 June 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
Which was noted in the thread
― Number None, Saturday, 18 June 2011 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
TONIGHT YOU GUYS!
In the spirit of "not dead unless shown onscreen," I'm wagering that the next OMGTWIST is that Ned is still alive.
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Sunday, 19 June 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
wondering what happened to Arya's 'dancing' teacher myself
― Gukbe, Sunday, 19 June 2011 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
my own personal theory regarding her dancing master is too spoiler-heavy for this thread. maybe some other time..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 19 June 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)
Spring 2012 to see Joffrey get some level of comeuppance.
― Gukbe, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:12 (fifteen years ago)
hate u cable tv having types
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:12 (fifteen years ago)
RT
@tedleo
WHAT? Spring 2012!?!?!
21 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
― My Boyfriend Could Be A Spanish Man (R Baez), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:20 (fifteen years ago)
Wait? Spring 2012 for the next series? http://ernstmul.home.xs4all.nl/images/yahoo/28.gif
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:27 (fifteen years ago)
season - whatever
TOO LONG
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
Considering they haven't finished the scripts nor cast Stannis I'd say a year is the best you can hope for.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
SHUT UP ;_;
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:31 (fifteen years ago)
They start filming next month.
― Gukbe, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:36 (fifteen years ago)
...gotta admit I'm worried about a season-full (or more) of cheesy dragon f/x
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 20 June 2011 05:31 (fifteen years ago)
Dragon fx looked good to me.
― Jouster, Monday, 20 June 2011 10:08 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I thought the dragon FX looked suprisingly good!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 20 June 2011 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
the sound design was great and helped to sell it a bit, but I didn't find the visuals quite convincing, which would only get worse if they're, you know, 50 times bigger.
Decent finale, not mindblowing but not really trying to be. I'm intrigued by the Arya/bastard pairing, and I loved the scene with Sansa and Joffrey.
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 20 June 2011 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
great ep. ( *spoiler post, if you haven't watched it yet* )
i especially loved Jeor's speech to Snow. the only scene that fell flat, to me, was the one with Little Finger and Varys. what was the point of that? i was half expecting them to start making out!
this has also cemented my conviction to NOT read the books. in addition to many-another-factor - i'm enjoying not knowing what's going to happen next. seeing how they revealed Daenerys surviving the fire was just too good!
― magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
the dragons were so cute :3
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
final two scenes were amazing sequence to end season w/
― Mordy, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:51 (fifteen years ago)