2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

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That same supposed message of his is also contradicted in a different way by trying to put Geraldine Ferraro on all fours with a thug like Obama's family "pastor." Ferraro may have sounded sour when she asserted that there can be political advantages to being black in the United States—and she said the selfsame thing about Jesse Jackson in 1984—but it's perfectly arguable that what she said is, in fact, true, and even if it isn't true, it's absurd to try and classify it as a racist remark.

trying to put Geraldine Ferraro on all fours

UH

Uh, welcome to the part of Obama's speech where he says that calling Ferraro a racist misses the point of her remarks, Hitchens.

why does Hitchens still have a job

yeah the all fours w/ a thug part was what I was wowing at

He hates religion so much that he sees red instead of black.

That Hitchens article is full of pernicious nonsense.

nothing like completely misinterpreting/misrepresenting a black man's remarks while simultaneously summoning the image of a thuggish black guy raping an old white lady, eh Hitchens

Onward and upward: The Obama Doctrine. (analysis of Obama's broader foreign-policy vision)

has hitchens always been weird about The Blacks?

Imagine if God wore blackface.

not that I'm gonna defend Hitch, but you guys get at least what he would claim is the meaning of 'all fours with', right?

lol these graphs are the best thing abt the internet right now

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the Oval Office, the ultimate symbol of American democracy

still funny hours later

I had to look it up:

The legal expression on all fours is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, as 'A phrase used to express the idea that a case at bar is in all points similar to another. The one is said to be on all fours with the other when the facts are similar and the same questions of law are involved'.

O RLY

and you guys thought that Hitch had cast Obama's grandma in a Fat Joe video.

Link:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ona1.htm

Geraldine Ferraro is Obama's grandmother???????

suddenly everything makes sense

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/24/801775.aspx

I am biased as a Hillary supporter but I have to say this has the ring of truth.

What, that superdelegates can be gamed?

lol coincidence

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that's fucking wrong

a HOOS disaproves

That's a shop of a famous Australian photo of a right-wing shockjock addressng a Country Part rally.

Yeah, it looked a little fake to me too, tbh

Apologies.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/norseking/funny/Alan_Jones_cunt.jpg

Back to the Hitch - I think it's cheap and nasty of commentators like him to presume that Obama's 'ailing grandmother who lives on her own' had no idea her grandson would speak publicly now about situations which had already been described, with her blessing and assistance, in his first book. Also, insinuating the woman is neglected by her grandson today is beyond gross (and I've noticed GOPs and their bloggers trying to suggest this as well).

Hitchens knows exactly what he's doing, selectively interpreting the elements of Obama's speech that facilitate his perpetual rant against organised religion.

He's a crank. Albeit a very intelligent one.

I'm pretty dedicated to the idea of keeping America secular (and I'm an atheist) and I am perfectly capable of constructing an argument in opposition to 'organized religion' without throwing anyone's gran under any notional bus.

what is this 'keeping' what is there to 'keep'?

Separation of church and state as mentioned in Constitution. Conflation of patriotism and religion did not really get going until McCarthy v. godless Commies, history fans. Technically, religion of citizens really should not be an issue - and before you get started, I KNOW.

Just try electing a secularist or atheist to any high office in the US and see how far you get.

You get FDR, Truman, LBJ and anyone in MN who ever ran for President.

Hugh Hewitt is the gift that keeps on, etc:

I have written and broadcast on the subject of Senator Obama's first book, Dreams From My Father. It has to be the most unusual book ever by a presidential aspirant, and much of what he writes cannot be classified as mainstream, and some of what he wrote would shock the average American, including his causal use of profanity and his admission concerning past cocaine use. The book was first published in 1995, before Senator Obama could have imagined a presidential run and perhaps before he could imagine anything more than the Congressional seat he unsuccessfully sought in 2000.

I did not learn until today that Senator Obama actually recorded the audio book, and I suspect that it won't be long until the most controversial parts of that audio book are broadcast. I broadcast one excerpt from Chapter 4 today, from pp. 72-74, and asked the audience for their reactions. Some callers shrugged it off, but many were deeply offended. I pointed out that past profanity cases like Nixon's "expletive deleteds," Bush's description of a New York Times' reporter and Dick Cheney's response to Pat Leahy have generated enormous headlines, but never has a presidential candidate ever purposefully recorded himself swearing so profusely or with such variety. I think the audiobook tape will matter a great deal, even if only used in context, and that of course the YouTube generation will begin manipulating the tape as soon as it is known to be available.

and some of what he wrote would shock the average American, including his causal use of profanity

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/16120/thumbs/r-MACCAIN-IRAQ-large.jpg

did McCain do his audiobooks, and does he say 'gook' much in them?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080324/capt.60fb23c306e247399198fcb1102c7577.bush_whgh101.jpg

uuhhhh....

You get FDR, Truman, LBJ and anyone in MN who ever ran for President.

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wtf best easter party ever and why was i not invited

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080324/i/r2804731579.jpg

why did they have two different easter bunnies??

God made Adam and Eve Easter Bunny, Mr. Que, NOT ADAM AND STEVE EASTER BUNNY.

mr & mrs bunny duh