REVEALED: THE ILX TOP 100 FILMS OF THE 1960s IN CINERAMA!

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7. Band of Outsiders/Bande A Part
Jean-Luc Godard, 1964
POINTS: 321
VOTES: 15
#1’s: 1

COMMENTS:

“i watched band of outsiders again last night, the end of that movie always makes me inexplicably happy. the last line of the narration is one of my favorite moments in all of cinema.”

-- J.D.

“A languid, sad, exuberant film. At one point one of its protagonists "wonders if the world is becoming a dream or a dream is becoming the world," which soundslike a parody of French art movie speak - and on one level, it might be, but it's also a suitable epitaph for a man more in love with cinema than the real world.”

--Justyn Dillingham

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

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6. The Manchurian Candidate
John Frankenheimer, 1962
POINTS: 341
VOTES: 14
#1’s: 1

COMMENTS:
“Famously withdrawn after the JFK assassination made it seem a little too relevant, The Manchurian Candidate is, on one level, a wild satire of American paranoia -in places it's even funny. But the humor sucks you in and sets you up to get knocked out: you think you're watching one kind of film, and suddenly you're watching another. By the conclusion, you've landed in what might be the darkest American movie ever made -and then it's over. Case closed, as Gerald Posner would say.”

--Justyn Dillingham

“How good is the Sinatra-Leigh meeting on the train?

“Very, very good. Its strange awkwardness is appealing (and I also liked the fact that I immediately assuming Leigh was part of the plot, and that ultimately nearly everyone was -- even if not true, it is hopefully something the film is trying to encourage you to do, ie trust not one person). I also liked the fact that though I had a guess at the end I didn't have the whole thing figured out.

“It doesn't QUITE flow as a successful film through and through but a lot of it is sheer context. Marcus in the link provided above gives a bit of that sense of the difference then and now, while things like the brainwashing set just seem utterly out of place, a Ken Adam design wrenched from a Bond movie and redressed. In some ways, though, perhaps the brainwashing is (to borrow a term) a plot Macguffin, something needed in order to make/let everything else happen -- not something someone wants a la Hitchcock, but a narrative device without which etc. And to be fair that was Condon's creation rather than Frankenheimer and Axelrod's. Suspend disbelief just enough and it works...and I did like many of the subtle details as well that I picked up, the brief one-sided phone conversation in Spanish, the nod to the ACLU, and so forth.”

-- Ned Raggett

“at first i pretty much disliked it, but its slowly growing on me as i realize how bizarre portions of it are, even outside of the dream sequence. but what does bizarre-ness matter on its own? im beginning to think of it more and more as a satire of mccarthy's worst nightmare, shown as silly and bizarre as that nightmare would be. the dreams themselves are pretty hokey and overthetop, as are any portions involving soviets or chinese?’

-- tom cleveland


“The Manchurian Candidate is a great film - original, daring for its time, blackly funny and quite scary. Plus it has the first martial arts fight scene in any American movie (I think). Which involves Frank Sinatra. So in a way it is responsible for Steven Segal & Jean Claude Van Damme. But I won't hold that against it....”

-- David Nolan

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm beginning to feel greater confidence in this poll, Dave.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

"i've never seen so many ballots wasted so badly"
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gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

yeah wtf, didnt "the silence" get released on dvd in the us?

Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I just took Through a Glass Darkly outta the liberry.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

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5. Breathless
Jean-Luc Godard, 1960
POINTS: 349
VOTES: 16

COMMENTS:

“Godard’s greatest non-Karina film is one of those BIG ICONIC WORLD-CHANGING MASTERPIECES OF THE CINEMATIC FORM, that is actual as great, entertaining, and fun as the reputation suggests. In fact, it’s better.”

--General Doinel

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

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4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
Stanley Kubrick, 1968
POINTS: 359
VOTES: 17
#1’s: 1

COMMENTS:

“My Mum worked as a production accounts assistant on 2001 and actually walked around the spinny space hub thing. Very expensive to build - she says tutting. She also said that Kubrick was nowhere near as nuts as Patrick 'Mad As A Hatter' MacGooghan, if that is in any way salacious.”

-- Pete

"2001" is godlike, but you have to accept that it's not like other films.”

&

“I don't think "2001" goes over the heads of people who don't like it. I used to be one of those people. But around the time he died it got shown on TV, I started watching it, and I got sucked in. It's not like other films in that it's really really really slow. Some people like that, other (inferior) people don't.’

-- The Dirty Vicar

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

a training film for flight attendants - jg ballard

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

and of course the best stuff in it kubrick didn't direct (would that he didn't direct more of his middlebrow pap)

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

still for vapid spectacle, halfbaked hippie homily, and heavily leaned on classical music it's one of the best of its kind. its kind = the sort of thing they show at epcot and world's fairs, but still.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

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3. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Sergio Leone, 1966
POINTS: 456
VOTES: 21

COMMENTS:

“I once saw a very very early matinee of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly (with ice cream and everything) and I have rarely ever been so truly truly happy.”

-- @d@ml

“The Good, The Bad & The Ugly may be my all-time favorite movie, the more I think about it.”

-- El Diablo Robotico

“I just acquired the new double disc DVD of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Amazing! I planned on watching one hour of it tonight so I could do something else later, but I watched all 179 minutes of it. Fucking beautiful.’

&

“The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly gets better with each viewing. And what is often forgotten is that it contains one of cinema's more inexplicably haunting depictions of war. Aside from the battle between a couple of liquored-up armies fighting over a useless bridge, the war is nothing but retreating armies, dead bodies, military cemeteries, and prisoner-of-war camps.

“What I didn't know was that Leone was actually depicting a very real part of the Civil War that took place in New Mexico. I always assumed that he was creating a surreal version of the war. Perhaps the scope of what occurred was implicitly larger in Leone's fiction, but it's based in truth.”

-- Gear!

“The title sequence is for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is one of my favorite things ever (the rest of the movie is up there too!).”

-- Spencer Chow

“Leone is the master filmmaker. This is the dress rehearsal to his magnum opus. Therefore, it can’t fail to be anything less than utter, utter genius. A beautifully wrought musing on Conflict, Friendship and Greed – the three central protagonists are cinema gold but Wallach’s Tuco steals the show the moment he screams “You’re the son a thousand fathers… all of them bastards like you.””

--FIVE-EIGHT

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't usually get too distressed by these polls, but I do feel really horrified to see 2001 so high, and above Breathless (which was my #2 - I know my #1 ain't showing up)!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

"j blount is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

- morbs mom

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

so...psycho and strangelove right?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh, you two.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

For what it's worth, Band of Outsiders DID make #7 (I was surprised and pleased.)

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

maybe i'll get lucky and it'll be bad girls go to hell and marnie (same flick damn near) 1-2

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I suppose I should retain hope for An Actor's Revenge at #1...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

psycho is one of my least favorite hitchcocks

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

there is no way that there are two early godard films better than my life to live.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

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2. Psycho
Alfred Hitchcock, 1960
POINTS: 513
VOTES: 23

COMMENTS?

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Before #1 is revealed, I'd like to take this time to honor #'s 101-110:

101 Head
102A The bed-sitting room
B.alfie
104 Irma La douce
105 Last Year At Marienbad
106 The Dirty Dozen
107 The Magnificent seven
108 Fail-safe
109 In the heat of the night
110 take the money and run

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

was anyone ever surprised at the revelation abt norman's mother? it's given away in the title no?

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

The (non-)eating scene between Marion and Norman in the office is very canny and touching, and one of the best-acted and written scenes in Hitchcock's oeuvre, I think. "But you should mind." "I do, but I say I don't..."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

dammit - also we know what #1 is: An Actor's Revenge, surprisingly edging out Dr Strangelove (#111).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

You called it:
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1. It Happened At The World’s Fair
Norman Taurog, 1963
POINTS: 554
VOTES: 25
#1’s: 2

COMMENTS?

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahahahaha

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

My ballot:

1. It Happened at the World's Fair
2. It Happened at the World's Fair
3. It Happened at the World's Fair
4. It Happened at the World's Fair
5. It Happened at the World's Fair
6. It Happened at the World's Fair
7. It Happened at the World's Fair
8. It Happened at the World's Fair
9. It Happened at the World's Fair
10. It Happened at the World's Fair

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

What, no It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

if only!

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I was daydreaming there for a moment (thanx to fritz for the set-up on one of the noms threads). BTW, is that Gary Lockwood the same guy from 2001?

ANYHOO:

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1. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Stanley Kubrick, 1964
POINTS: 554
VOTES: 25
#1’s: 2

COMMENTS:

“I've seen it so many times I almost forget it's meant to be a comedy; in a lot of ways it works just as well as a straight thriller. But I never fail to crack up at "Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines!"”

--Justyn Dillingham

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Sellers is no Elvis though, let's all agree on that.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

in the worst decade ever for american cinema, we vote 8 "american" films into the top ten.

so lame.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Don't be elitist!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

i cant help it!

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Also, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is in no way American.

My gripe: too many African films.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

morbs = bill o'reilly

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I was surprised to realise, after preparing my list, than only one of my top eleven was directed by an American - and that film didn't make the list (The Pawnbroker). I seem to be out of tune with ILX.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

The only exposure people have to non-English-speaking films are Criterion and other boutique DVD labels - and I think Criterion was represented fairly well here.

I don't know why it would be a shock that a poll consisting largely of American voters (with a lesser number of Britishes and Australians, and the odd Scandinavian here and there) is dominated by films dominant in American culture.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

oh not again

Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

dammit, no room for El Dorado - you people can't even vote in the right American films!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

nor Witchfinder General! Are Hammer Horror films not well exposed in the US?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I find the inclusion of The Graduate and Midnight Cowboy objectionable, but that would be the case if they were Russian, too. And Dr. Strangelove (which I voted for) isn't even the fourth-best Kubrick movie.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

I am completely indignant at people not agreeing with me! It's not good enough!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Dr Strangelove stands out from Kubrick's other movies in being entertaining some of the time. I'm not sure how that happened.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Full Metal Jacket is nothing if not entertaining.

I've never seen Lolita or Barry Lyndon, but the only Kubrick movie I could see an argument for not being entertaining is 2001.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

martin hammer horror definitely isn't as well known/revered as it should be over here but it's hardly obscure either, it isn't shown all the time on the various turner channels and it doesn't seem to have a vocal cult really. definitely deserved more love on this list, esp with boring old rosemary's baby in the top ten. i'd hoped the brits might represent more.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Why Strangelove stands out:

PETER SELLERS/GEORGE C. SCOTT/PETER SELLERS/KEENAN WYNN/PETER SELLERS/STERLING HAYDEN/and who could forget...SLIM PICKENS

Yet I did not vote for it.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)


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