Golden Girls: Classic or Dud?

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classic. It's disturbing to realize I was possibly introduced to the concept of sex by four elderly nymphomaniacs.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Did you close your eyes and think of bunnies?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't understand why bunnies would be preferable to elderly comediennes.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Bunnies aren't as leathery and giggle less.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 12 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

THAT'S QUITE ENOUGH

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 April 2003 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Finally, a place where I can freely express my draw to the Bea Arthur mystique. Is there an E! True Hollywood Story about the Golden Girls? If not, there really should be. (arthur) heh heh...eh.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 12 April 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Jeanne, will this do?

― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 April 2003 23:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Pictures you'd like to see:

Bea Arthur in drag---as a woman

― Skottie, Sunday, 13 April 2003 06:00 (twenty-three years ago)

From The Glossary of Literary Terms:

"The Old Comedy of the Greeks had three stock characters whose interactions constituted the standard plot: the alazon, or imposter and self-deceiving braggart, the eiron, or self-derogatory and understating character, whose contest with the alazon is central to the comic plot; and the bomolochos, or buffoon, whose antics add an extra comic element....Northrop Frye has revived these old terms [and] added a fourth, the agroikos -- the rustic or easily deceived character."

Obviously: Alazon = Blanche; Eiron = Dorothy; Bomolochos = Sophia; Agroikos = Rose

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 13 April 2003 07:02 (twenty-three years ago)

"Danny Thomas is a lesbian?!?"

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 14 April 2003 09:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sorry Bea Arthur battered Ally, but she still totally rocks my world!

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

She threw me to the ground! She might as well have spit on me, the old bitty bitch!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Why was she so enraged? Did you bring up the Star Wars xmas special?

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:22 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

More, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic! Was this the first TV series to star older women exclusively? Has there been one ever since? Older actresses don't get that much respect, they're usually offered only the granny/matriarch roles, and they definitely don't get to talk about sex. As mainstream TV is concerned, Golden Girls was groundbreaking indeed.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I already said classic on the Lifetime thread, but I'll say it again. In fact, I'm watching it right now.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone at work yesterday made a hipster "Bea Arthur" reference and no one laughed. I informed the sad fellow that Rue McClanahan was the new Bea Arthur.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Golden Girls" was "Sex and the City" -- fifteen years ahead of its time. Think about it.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

It says the same thing on the IMDb Golden Girls user comments, Barry. I call shenanigans.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Complete and utter CLASSIC!!! One of the few reasons to even get out of bed in the morning.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Golden. Sex and the City cannot hold a candle to it. Also one of the only funny things on SNL in the past x years was the golden girls skit.

― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, I hadn't seen the comments on IMDb, but I did figure that I couldn't hae been the first person to make that connection.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked watching it for Sophia, but also it was funny how they rarely left the house except to get the mail or something.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

* *GOLDEN GIRLS Season 3 DVD*

The Girls Are Back!

Cast DVD Signing for the Emmy-Award Winning TV Series
at Barnes & Noble in NYC November 22nd

WHO: "Golden Girls" cast: Bea Arthur, Betty White, and Rue McClanhan

WHAT: America's favorite girls are together again to celebrate the
release of the GOLDEN GIRLS Season 3 on DVD with an in-store
signing. Fans can now enjoy another helping of laughter,
misadventures, and cheesecake with this laugh-filled season of
the Emmy-Award winning TV sitcom -- all 25 episodes in this new
complete DVD set. Included are the original and unedited
"Golden Moments" episode where the girls share fond memories of
their times together, plus hilarious bonus features that prove
good comedy never grows old.

WHEN: Tuesday, November 22, 12:30 - 2:30PM

WHERE: Barnes & Noble Booksellers
675 6th Avenue (6th and 22nd)
New York, NY 10010

― Be4 4rhtur ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

I should ask them to sign my tits, Motley Crue-style.

― Rue ƒur¥ McClananan (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

lifetime had a 20th anniversary special (really done in '03 actually, with some new unfunny Mo Rocca-led bumper segments tacked on), The three(Estelle Getty was absent of course) all taped their host segments seperately so there still must be some pretty bad blood between them. Show is classic obv.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

How cruel, Je4nne, to post this mere hours after the event's over!

― Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm ashamed to say that I just saw a report of this on "Entertainment Tonight". Check your local listings.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

me and my mom used to watch this every weekday in my early teens. sophia was our fav character. why is no one mentioning her? i cant believe estelle getty is still ALIVE. wtf?

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

she's younger than bea arthur, foo. Nowadays she has pretty advanced parkinson's and doesn't appear in public anymore though. But all the GGs are still with us!

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

she's comic dynamite btw, it almost goes without saying. The ensemble probably had the best comic timing pound for pound of any television show ever thanks mostly to her (and Bea Arthur)

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

estelle getty - my favorite ever.

also, my little sister loves this story that when they were casting, they kept saying 'we need like, a betty white type' for rose. then they finally got smart and got betty white to do it!

― tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Season four of The Golden Girls comes out on DVD on February 14th, with season five following on May 9th.

The season five will apparently feature commentaries from Betty White.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

seriously upset that I missed this:

http://www.laweekly.com/a-considerable-town/12958/that-golden-moment/

no dish on the bea/betty/shit/dressing room incident. I'd like to think that if Bea showed up, she would have told the story without prompting.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

I have so few opportunities to dig up the "drunk and everyone else applauds" thread, so this thread will have to do.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:10 (twenty years ago)

also, my little sister loves this story that when they were casting, they kept saying 'we need like, a betty white type' for rose. then they finally got smart and got betty white to do it!

They were? I thought the whole point was that they got Betty and Rue but they decided to switch it around from their MTM days where Betty was the slutty one and Rue was the naive one.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Rue was on MTM?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:33 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm... she was on Lou Grant it seems.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I thought she was also on a few eps of MTM... Because I have barely seen one or two eps of Lou Grant but I remember finally seeing Rue as naive.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

She was on Maude frequently as... I guess a normal person.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

more importantly, rue was in starship troopers

― gear (gear), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Which only makes it all the sadder that Bea turned down Showgirls.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:49 (twenty years ago)

someone shat in the dressing room?

― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:07 (twenty years ago)

every version I've heard: Bea shat in the middle of Betty's dressing room floor(my favorite); Bea took a mean shit in Betty's dressing room toilet and didn't flush, on purpose; upthread: Bea apparently once shat in Betty's shoe which would be unfuckwithable but seems...beneath her somehow.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:31 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

the golden girls is the best show ever ; )

― surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

and i still can't decide who's funnier, bea, rue or betty

all are outrageously good

― surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

i love the scene, i don't remember what season it may be the 3rd or 4th

where dorothy lets rose in on her little trick for public speaking - imagining everyone naked

and then blanche and rose try it, looking at each other, but it doesn't seem to do anything

but then they look at dorothyh and crack up hysterically

kills me

― Surmounter (rra123), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

It's a strange world.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

oh jesus

only a matter of time i guess?

ridic.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

This is like my favourite sitcom ever.

MIAMI IS NICE
SO I'LL SAY IT TWICE
MIAMI IS NICE
MIAMI IS NICE
MIAMI IS NICE

rofl

― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

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never found guilty in 3 trials

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:14 (five years ago)

A prince of a man, then.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:42 (five years ago)

But thanks for willfully overlooking the point.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:48 (five years ago)

Really good piece.

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:15 (five years ago)

Saw a couple of episodes of this the other day and they were not very good. One of the storylines was about the possibility that Estelle Getty was not Bea Arthur's real mother and that's when I realized they're supposed to be Italian - the fear of having actual Jewish characters writ large.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:18 (five years ago)

designing women is better anyway

― clouds, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:21 (five years ago)

You take that back!

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:23 (five years ago)

― clouds, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:26 (five years ago)

One of the storylines was about the possibility that Estelle Getty was not Bea Arthur's real mother

IIRC that's a later season episode. Even a lot of die-hard fans have their issues with the last couple seasons.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

That episode sucks.

Some gems in the later seasons: I love the murder mystery weekend, Dorothy singing "What'll I Do," and Alan King as Mel Bushman. But yeah, it was definitely where the show's famously sloppy writing got even more ridiculous.

― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:29 (five years ago)

On a GG recap podcast I used to listen to until I realized I couldn't stand one of the hosts anymore, one of their guests made the bold assertion that he preferred the later seasons for their "more flexible sense of reality." Which I took to mean, yes, sloppiness.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:31 (five years ago)

But yes, the "What'll I Do" ep is top 3.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:31 (five years ago)

That's the same reaction some fans have about the last couple Rosanne episodes

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:34 (five years ago)

Yes, but which series had more indefensible fat jokes?

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:45 (five years ago)

The Cosby Show.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:04 (five years ago)

At the same time, Golden Girls had more punchlines about The Cosby Show than The Cosby Show had indefensible fat jokes.

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:13 (five years ago)

I prefer the latter seasons of Seinfeld because of their more flexible sense of reality.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:52 (five years ago)

btw all silent film buffs now call Fatty Arbuckle "Roscoe" (as his colleagues did)

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 01:16 (five years ago)

I wish that more film buffs were silent.

― pplains, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:29 (five years ago)

disappointed that a ctrl+f for "rattan" yields zero (0) results itt

― the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:44 (five years ago)

we're all disappointed in life from time to time, but we find the hope to carry on.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:43 (five years ago)

Oh please, it’s wicker.

― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 July 2020 06:04 (five years ago)

two years pass...

I saw a bumper sticker for “St. Olaf College”; took a pic and sent it to my wife, thinking it was a GG joke… she was like, “Yeah, that’s a real school.”

― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Sunday, 19 February 2023 01:18 (three years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/14/theater/tituss-burgess-moulin-rouge.html

Those four ladies and the writers together made television magic. It’s like a fine wine: The jokes somehow are even funnier now, or I’m just getting older and maybe I understand the references a little more. On some level, every creator can reference it as a source of inspiration. For me, TV’s never been funnier.

― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:27 (two years ago)

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