what are barack obama's flaws?

wow, a huge scandal there

it annoyed me cause for half a second I thought it was gonna be some actual friend inviting me to dinner

Though I think it's quite revealing, I don't really have any objection to Obama's efforts to persuade Wall Street and other oligarchs to (once again) fill his coffers with cash. Virtually every politician, especially at this level, is going to troll for money wherever they can get it, if, for no other reason, than to deprive their opponents of that cash. I just don't want to have to once again endure 18 months of the propagandizing (and false) mythologizing conceit that this is some sort of special campaign propelled by plucky, small-donor enthusiasts driving him back to the White House $5 and $10 at a time so that he can stand up on their behalf to special interests.

getting cash from wall street = all politicians do it, no objection
"propaganda" and "mythologizing conceit" = blog post

glenn really needs to stop putting two spaces after his periods

max beat me to the pasting job

you jaded kids and yer 60 favorite Pavement songs

I think a shameless lying fuck trying to be the Change Agent again is balls worth noting, max

I'm glad Greenwald raises these flags, but isn't Obama's mythical aura really a strawman by this point? Other than clemenza on this board, I know no liberal who still thinks Obama deserves admiration.

i got the Dinner? email, but I don't open those

That Obama courts the Wall Street crowd -- a fact obvious since 2007 -- is less offensive to me than his extra-constitutional war-making in Libya and Yemen.

Brunch?

Alfred, have you talked to any libs who arent gonna vote for him?

Drinks?

Kool-Aid for all

Beach?

admiration /= not voting for him. Remember our beloved Billy boy?

you mean cuz he got ppl who don't like blowjobs to vote for him?

man you guys are not voting for obama so much

he courted swingdick voters.

if only you could not vote for obama more than you're gonna not vote for obama

Bloomberg 2016, amirite

I'm not voting for Obama either.

i was going to vote for obama, but then he used a mythologizing conceit in his re-election campaign

lol my vote for obama cancels out morbs non-vote

omama there goes that bam

none of you are of sufficient power to cancel out anything I generate, actively or passively

no im p sure you only get one vote & so do i

what if he doesn't vote

you can't cancel out a 0

http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000003878597-oc3w2e-crop.jpg?10e4608

I am not a number, I am a free man

none of you are of sufficient power to cancel out anything I generate, actively or passively

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:42 (23 minutes ago)

whoa

Dr Morbius IS the electoral college

none of you are of sufficient power to cancel out anything I generate, actively or passively

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:42 (23 minutes ago)

tbh i read this and nodded

*resets bookmark*

Obama this morning, echoing LBJ: "There goes the ILX vote for a generation."

feel like he's ignoring us. no big speeches lately, or worldclass villain kills

HE'S A FAN OF THE BEARS

I'm glad Greenwald raises these flags, but isn't Obama's mythical aura really a strawman by this point? Other than clemenza on this board, I know no liberal who still thinks Obama deserves admiration.

this is otm, even the most ardent O supporter's position right now is "look, yes, you're right, a lot of that shit is contemptible and can't be defended but here's some good things he did and there aren't going to be any better viable alternatives"

laughed hard when i got the Dinner? email and it was right under an email from the ACLU: "The FBI wants your garbage."

like how am i going to enjoy dinner with the president while i'm worrying about that now

from what i understand the dinner is going to be pretty informal, no big issues on the table, maybe even in dressing gowns, a tv blaring, with re-heated food from a prior banquet

they should turn the dinner into a ride, like, actors break into the restaurant and try to kidnap the president, dinner pals are given extremely realistic-looking laser tag guns that activate squibs in the suits of secret service agents dressed up in turbans/trucker hats, everyone is brought together in delight at end, maybe given enormous check.

also at least this dinner will fix denny's' image problem

he'd be the strongest gop candidate for president?

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/21/lind_obama_republican/index.html

In spite of the prospect of years of mass unemployment, Barack Obama, in the spirit of the budget-balancing Rubinomics of the 1990s and Ike-onomics of the 1950s, has called for freezing discretionary spending except for defense. He has allowed the conversation to be shifted from recovery to long-term fiscal consolidation, which conservatives will try to use as an excuse to partly replace Social Security and Medicare with mandatory private accounts that will generate lucrative fees for Wall Street and the insurance industry from a huge captive population of American fee-payers.

If he were to run for the Republican nomination, Obama could point out that in the past few years he has already done far more to thwart American liberalism than any of his rivals in the GOP primary have done in their entire careers. He could boast that when liberal economists called for the temporary nationalization of insolvent megabanks, forcing shareholders to swallow their losses and firing their managers, he stood firm and protected Wall Street.

Sullivan praises him as the best kind of Eisenhower Republican.

kinda seems like a vince mcmahon storyline

"sentences you never thought you'd hear back in 2001"

obama's no ike.

Contrary to what Alfred thinks, I don't object to (or automatically disagree with) criticism of Obama. As I explained elsewhere, there's enough of it on this and the political thread that I don't feel the need to join in when I agree. The only kind of criticism I'm not a fan of is a) the kind that's hysterical (hello, Tea Party) or dripping with sarcasm (fill in the blank).

I thought this from Sullivan the other day was very fair and accurate:

"But he will have presided over it [i.e., gay equality, but he meant for the statement to encompass a lot of things], not led it. I think that's how he sees the presidency as a whole. As a national community organizer, whose job it is to guide, shape but follow.