The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

i wouldn't call the final sopranos 'trolling' or a 'fuck you' but i think they knew what kind of reactions they'd get from some quarters

i mean even marlo stanfield is more "likeable" to me in some ways than anyone on the sopranos except for a couple of exceptions, imo.

wow if that is the case i will probably not make it thru the sopranos. :(

i dont think so per se! i mean the reason ppl complain about autotune isnt because one artist used it but because so many are using it

― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:17 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so if someone made this incredible song with autotune you'd still complain about it?

lol well there is hope for one character, i think, and it's a pretty good ride nonetheless xp

haha no but i like the sopranos xp

i dont know, i mean the sopranos characters are despicable but they are likeable at the same time, in the sense that they are mostly charismatic and draw you in and you want to see what they'll do next. dont worry horseshoe you can handle it

I'm not sure it's a good thing that we congratulate people for feeling important enough to thumb their noses at the very people who are the reason they are important in the first place....

most artists worth their salt do this though, don't they? to wrest creative control back from the distracting and usu conservative expectations of fans, even if they may have had a role in creating them. And sometimes, like possibly w/ sopranos, it may just be about staying true to the art and not primarily abour screwing with people. this must be diff in some way i'm missing im thinking.

so true though that it is natural to align with the artist and get some vicarious thrill in thinking that lol everyone else must be so totally perplexed right now, even if that imagined group is really some marginal minority and you're actually trolling next to nobody with an army of blinkered & self-satisfied dicks.

man, i really hope this isn't the case. it seems kind of stupid to spend all this time/life/energy working on something and then you get to the end and think to yourself: you know what. fuck it. it's just a TV show. let's have some onion rings.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:56 (23 minutes ago) Permalink

I love endings like this!

I also love onion rings

so is everybody expecting the Wire to end all neatly wrapped up like a nice little package? I'm just curious.

the sopranos characters are despicable but they are likeable at the same time, in the sense that they are mostly charismatic and draw you in and you want to see what they'll do next

Alluded to this above, but I suspect this right here is the nugget at the core of other stuff that doesn't work for me -- I don't get this charisma or drawing-in at all, and am having a hard time thinking of even one non-Carmela character from the show I would not take the stairs to avoid riding an elevator with

it already ended xp

it already ended

so is everybody expecting the Wire to end all neatly wrapped up like a nice little package? I'm just curious.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:23 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its already ended bro. u should really see it

its already ended

btw

the show ended

xp

shakey i would not read this thread tbh, if you really want to see it, which you should

btw the wire ended months ago

the show ended fyi

hey guys how do u think the wire will end??

omar little eatin an onion ring

in a dream sequence where stringer bell appears as a fish

musical number

lolz its on my list of things to see guys, don't worry

what was that movie with gandolfini -- romance and cigarettes? i thought that was pretty good. had lots of musical numbers

I was far less upset by this thread spoiling the end of the Sopranos than I was the Wire. I stopped watching Sopranos about season four, keep meaning to finish, but just don't feel bothered.

what are some great onion ring moments in television

that fukkin times article giving away the wire spoiler is still blowing my mind -- who the fuck does something like that

Can you really spoil the end of the Sopranos? The screen goes black, that happens at the end of everything

I did not know Tony dies. Although it wouldn't have been hard to guess.

I can't think every time I think I get hungry and I think about the hunger

don't forget to eat

it's not conclusive that tony dies

^^^true

i'm not a sopranos dude but slocki owns in this thread and almost makes me wish i was~

I don't think you can really "spoil" the end of the Sopranos, there's too much deliberate ambiguity built into it.

But the onion rings. . . Seems like that comes out of nowhere.

Did you mean: greasy onion ring moments in television

onion rings symbolize Tony's deep-fried self-loathing

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/onion-ring/

Just #1

http://www.sacmag.com/media/images/sacmag_2/best%20of%20sac/guy.jpg

Guy draws everyone into his web and makes them all complicit in a whole host of horrible things by virtue of their casual hunger, their gullibility, or their desire to be like him/live vicariously through him. Its about the banality of evil and how its enabled by all kinds of little innocuous compromises and self-centered behavior.

haha

http://media.herald-dispatch.com/blog/tuned/uploaded_images/Tony-Soprano-770177.JPG

Guy searches for the restaurants serving the best french fries, onion rings and hamburgers

lolololol

i'm not a sopranos dude but slocki owns in this thread and almost makes me wish i was~

― cankles, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

there are no female characters in the wire as strong as carmela or livia. - Let's not forget about Snoop here, possibly my favorite television character ever (tied with Bill Haverchuck, actually). It would be hard to compare her on any level to the ladies of The Sopraons, as her gender was almost incidental to the awesome paradox of chill stoner/totally fucking ruthless nihilistic sociopath. That fact that she was female only underscored the absolute originality of the character.

what are some great onion ring moments in television

― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:31 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Homer proposed to Marge with an onion ring!