"risk breaking your damn fingers and grind the flow of people to a halt, because a woman is around"
― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yes see, this makes no sense ergo I get mocking it
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't understand opening a door for a woman after she's already started to open it herself!
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxxp Actually, chamber pots were usually taken to public privies and dumped.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Jenny so otm
― horseshoe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Dan the critiques aren't really about women who are accustomed to courtly behavior!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
If I walk through a door and someone (of either gender) is walking behind me, I politely hold the door open. But if I see someone who's way behind me, I won't hold the door for 10 or 15 seconds. But sometimes, there's that in-between walk-behinder who I'd have to hold the door for about 5 seconds, and I'm never sure whether I should hold the door for her, or if it would look odd that I'm holding the door open for so long (of if it will imply I want her to hurry up, etc.)
How many seconds behind you must someone else be before it's acceptable to let the door close behind you?
― Lee626, Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
it depends on how good-looking they are, obviously
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
if the door would swing fully closed by they time they reached it, then maybe it's ok to not hold the door? leaving the door to swing closed in their face just as they reach it seems like a dick move.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
just realizing that Art of Manliness is largely co-authored by a husband & wife team
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
if i could identify a common theme in much of this "being a gentleman" / "being a man" nonsense, it would be "false nostalgia":
Whenever I’m watching a movie that harkens back to a sepia tinted yesteryear, it isn’t the simpler times I long for so much as a return to the distant days when a man rose alongside the sunrise and was expected to give the daylight his best.Clothes were sharper, adolescence shorter, and the word man still deserving of the first spot in the word manners. Now it seems as if there is something missing, something stripped from today’s men, besides their buttons and blazers. I peer at photographs of my grandfather in his prime, and ponder the polarity of our worlds. A dozen decades have hurtled by with such speed; it seems they have left our populace with a case of collective amnesia. I look past the creases of my curling photographs, grateful that I can still teach my son what I believe it means to be a man.The fellows in those old photos look like they had manners, you can practically see them. Even greasy and fatigued, they never went outside without a hat to hold the hair upon their head. It is difficult to believe that they would have left behind their pleases and thank yous. If it were only manners abandoned, things might be easier to explain to my boy, but it isn’t. There is a mindset now missing, an outlook thickened by decades of languor.
Clothes were sharper, adolescence shorter, and the word man still deserving of the first spot in the word manners. Now it seems as if there is something missing, something stripped from today’s men, besides their buttons and blazers. I peer at photographs of my grandfather in his prime, and ponder the polarity of our worlds. A dozen decades have hurtled by with such speed; it seems they have left our populace with a case of collective amnesia. I look past the creases of my curling photographs, grateful that I can still teach my son what I believe it means to be a man.
The fellows in those old photos look like they had manners, you can practically see them. Even greasy and fatigued, they never went outside without a hat to hold the hair upon their head. It is difficult to believe that they would have left behind their pleases and thank yous. If it were only manners abandoned, things might be easier to explain to my boy, but it isn’t. There is a mindset now missing, an outlook thickened by decades of languor.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i gagged
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
of course these men had manners. not a drunk, a gambler, a wife-beater, or a degenerate bastard among them! i can tell, you see, because these photographs are old.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Rule #743:
Wear a hat... to hold the hair ... upon your head
― boxall, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
re: "baby"
I call my gf "baby" all the time but in the context of "quit being such a baby" bc babies are the only minority group I am comfortable disparaging
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
You see, that congressman was RIGHT, babies are the most AT-RISK MINORITY IN AMERICA TODAY.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm96y1iz7I1qj29d6o1_500.jpg
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
okay no
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
everything about that is wrong
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I think once you start having 216 rules, you might not actually be all that much fun to hang out with.
― NickB, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i think an exception should be made re: Rule 216 for the gentlemen with a stomping fetish
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I decided to be playful with gender roles today and when the elevator arrived at our floor and the two dudes who were right in front of the doors stepped back and away from the doors so I could enter first, even though I was farther away and they were there first, I just stood there. We had a standoff until the doors started to shut and I caved and got on because the elevators in our building are super slow and I was really hungry.
In conclusion, feminism is dead.
― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeh, how the hell is sticking to old-fashioned gender roles "playful"? Being "playful" with gender roles is Madonna wearing a suit and tie.
― Jesse, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought the bend-over boyfriend trend was the end game of "playful with gender roles"
― mh, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Is that some new doll?
― Jesse, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bend_Over_Boyfriend
― mh, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
people call it wordplay when somebody mispronounces something in a song
people r dumb
― brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the being "playful with gender" sentiment is just a shading on the "humorless feminist" stereotype?
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
he hit me and it felt like a playful
― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno, maybe it's "playful" in the way where they all dress up like Mad Men characters and revel in the superficial pleasures of midcentury gender roles? i have no fucking clue tbh
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
someone should do a parody of one of these that describes the series of chemical reactions started off by the sry gene in the y chromosome
― ideas are death (Lamp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
rulesofasevenweekoldembroyo.tumblr.com/
― ideas are death (Lamp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmjvx7PKqw1qdmmiqo1_500.gif
― Z S, Friday, 10 June 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i hate this awful person, btw.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llee4ffcZ01qj29d6o1_500.jpg
fucking weird
― Z S, Friday, 10 June 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I like to imagine that same guy standing over his cowering gal shouting "GIGGLE FOR ME! ONLY FOR ME!"
― free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Friday, 10 June 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
that one just reminds me of the weezer song
― ☂ (max), Friday, 10 June 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
rivers cuomo is not a dude whose attitudes toward women one would want to emulate
he seems to have some ideas about people with southeast asian heritage iirc
― mh, Friday, 10 June 2011 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
heh - both of the last two posts def true based on things I've heard from someone who was on tour with him
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 10 June 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know if touring musician-time is something I would fully judge someone on.
Fucked up life.
― mh, Friday, 10 June 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess but still.
also
I appreciated the girltip about menstrual blood because I have been letting it run down my legs and pool into my socks and never understood why people avoided me for five days each month.
― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, June 9, 2011 12:11 PM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol <3
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 10 June 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
- I usually hold the door for people out of politeness, not out of any 'hay look I'm a lady and I'm holding the door for dudez'...but over time I've sort of learned that especially with older, like 60+ fellas, it's like some genetic chivalric duty and they wither to dust if they are denied (or they get really mad)...but I'm not above having a door opened for me either. It's not like I'll refuse. But if my male friends try to be all, "no you go first" when I hold the door I get bolshy and yell at them til they go through the door. Because it's fun.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 June 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Holding-doors-open-for-bitches-cause-your-a-classy-cunt/151250144944959
― Circlework de Soleil (S-), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
A man is a person. "Woman" is a breed.
couldn't help notice that the titles of the gentlemen / lady rule blogs subtly echo this ^^
The Rules of A Gentleman (singular) vs. The Rules of Ladies (plural)
(sure ok it's probably a url availability thing but it's cultural implications did not escape my hypervigilant eye, no sir)
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
even more:
http://tobealady.tumblr.com
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkmh2qCyvI1qivqa1o1_500.png
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
xp lol i just tried to post that one
is this a fucking koan?
― goole, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
"if you are outside the house, you are not in the house"
hahaha
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link