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Eric H--yeah, I'm MySpace friends w/Fancy Ray, that's what made me think of him. Most of the folks on this thread no longer live in Mpls but here we are!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea who Fancy Ray was; I just assumed he was the owner of video stores and sex shops. One of them has him messing around with an inflatable sheep

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)

I saw a clip one time of Fancy Ray doing "I Put a Spell On You" by Screaming Jay Hawkins on Puttin' on the Hits. I wonder if that's on Youtube?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Hey Matos,

Do you remember the Mpls rapper Top Tone? He had an album called "What Part of the Game is This?"

I saw him at Wendy's a month or so ago. He was wearing a really old and shabby Scarface (movie) leather jacket...he was just kinda milling around the Wendy's on Broadway and 94 in North....he looked kinda sad....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:58 (twenty years ago)

She used to tell me great stories about going to the Commodore and the Lexington in the '30s and because she was both startlingly gorgeous and in art college, she had a lot of fun getting chased by the film stars who drank there.

Suzy, what were the Commodore and the Lexington? Where were they? What were films stars doing here in the '30s?!!

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

As for Top Tone, one man's "shabby" is another man's "vintage," right? Every once in a while somebody tells me I should follow-up this, but I haven't yet:

http://citypages.com/databank/22/1092/article9927.asp

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Pete: Lexington is a posh restaurant in St Paul, Commodore an ex-art deco hotel that is now condos, also in St. Paul. People came to town for all sorts of reasons, but please do remember that Lake Minnetonka once had a Hamptons thing going on.

At least one of the film stars was chasing my grandmother, while she was engaged to my grandfather. I don't know for sure how long, but she had to tell him to give up and just go away. She went to MCAD or the U, or MCAD *and* the U, and trained in fashion design. Make no mistake, she was cool.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

pics plz

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Commodore Hotel, Jazz Age Party Pen (think about it):

http://caudle2.home.comcast.net/fsfitz18.gif

Lexington Restaurant, Still Serving Women Who Think They're Babs Paley:

http://www.planet99.com/pix/6859_1.jpg

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Thanks! I hate to ask, but which movie star?

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Erm, C14rk G4b13?

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

oo, he nasty

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Exactly. Lady has standards shocker. She also talked about dancing with J to the F to the K when she lived in Baltimore in the '40s, amongst other strange and starry tales to do with my grandfather's old friends, but she was a very happily married aspirant DFL maven by then.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

The one time I went to the Lexington I saw somebody face-down on their table, drunk and/or asleep.

The glamor spot for us Dakota County kids was the Chart House in Prior Lake - nautical theme, lounge music, booze and frogs' legs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

i really liked the top tone article pete, that's what i remembered him from...

The Lexington is the bomb.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

My grandmother took me there for my 16th birthday, paid with her issued-in-the-'30s membership/charge, and it was a blast.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

btw, what was up with that duck duck goose bullshit?!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

You ever yelled Goose in MN? There are good reasoins we say gray-duck.

If on a farm, mean geese will come and chase for reals.

My neighbourhood's 'scary house' had 'guard' geese - mean, low-necked hissing fuckers. Hence the great Minnesota Gray-Duck.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

I've been bitten by a goose!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

duck duck grey duck is the natural order.

duck duck goose is for losers!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:28 (twenty years ago)

seriously though -- why is this limited to MN? I have never heard ANYONE that isn't MNan say it.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Years ago I daydreamed of getting a MN Historical Society grant to map out duck duck gray duck. My aunt teaches kindergarted in Fargo, and they play DDGD. My friend in Des Moines is DDG. I once knew a gal from Marshall, and I think that was DDGD territory too.

Anyone here from outside the Twin Cities? Is DDGD de rigeur in all corners of the state?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Ask the people who brought the Minnesota vocabulary PHY ED and BILLFOLD - they'll have an answer.

Also, we get so few opportunities for sanctioned yelling there, Grayduck takes A LOT longer to scream.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Plus, if you're playing DDG, instead of DDGD, you don't get to do the "red duck, yellow duck, grrrrrrrEEN duck, blue duck, mauve duck, paisley duck, GREY DUCK!"

...what they don't say billfold and phy ed everywhere else?

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

You say "phy ed" instead of "phys ed"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

duh

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

gray duh

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

We also go to prom instead of the prom, but I don't know if that's midwestern or Minnesotan or what. I had no idea about billfold and phy ed not being universal and natural. Hot dish, of course.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Peppermint bon bon.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

"Going to prom" (i.e., no definite article) must be Midwestern, because we said it in Illinois. "Billfold" is what, a wallet?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

it was duck duck grey duck in southern Minnesoter (Worthington) for sure.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Yes well 'prom' is short for 'promenade' so it would be correct to say 'prom' instead of 'the prom' which is redolent of the Love Boat's 'promenade deck' shudder.

Peppermint bon bon = Kemps.

Unique among all Minnesotans, I was not once forced to suffer a crunchy onions/cream of mushroom/green bean (meat) casserole EVER. CoM soup in our house = beef stroganoff or shrimp equivalent. My mother has very specific ideas of what should be eaten (full fat milk, butter, good bread) and what should not (meat from a can, convenience foods, sugar cereals).

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Yes well 'prom' is short for 'promenade' so it would be correct to say 'prom' instead of 'the prom'

I don't follow this logic. Regardless of its derivation, it's being used as a noun, not a verb, in the construction "I'm going to prom with Suzy." It's really the same thing as "going to school" or "going to hospital" (although this latter one is UK/AUS-only).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

OMG, I hadn't thought about "phy ed" is YEARS.

― Dan (GREY DUCK!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

OMG, I hadn't thought about ~~"phy ed"~~ MR Y0UNG in YEARS.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

aahhhghhh. Good lord, no wonder I turned out such a mess...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

I was forever having East Coast distinctions pointed out to me by this grandmother. No way in Hell was her granddaughter going to NYC with a Minnewegian accent. Mind out my dad's parents were the only people in my family like this and their son is now Homer Simpson plus a trucker hat.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:37 (twenty years ago)

we totally had phy ed ONLY in Minnesoter.

oh yah we did.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

JUMP FOR THE TOWEL, JUSTEN.

(RIP, for real)

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

what's wierd is that all this stuff tends to come up w/in 48 hours of being in minnesota! i swear my first weekend in the dorm (i grew up in iowa) ppl were all like "phys ed? goose? wallet? what's yr problem??"

that and "borrow" for both "borrow" and "lend." that just makes nooo sense, i'd love to know the reason. to scandinavian languages have just one word for both or something?

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.captovation.com/Miscellaneous%20Images/Minneapolis%20Activities/lord_fletchers.gif

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Wait a second -- is it phys ed or phy ed? In Ohio we had billfolds, phys ed and prom too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

PHY

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

It's PHY ED in Minnewegia.

OMG, Don, that place is Leisure Suit Larry with BOATS. Wayzata has such hilarious Hamptons pretensions sometimes.

I had a great time around there with my dad at New Year. He grew up in Deephaven/Excelsior, where he delivered his Minneapolis Stars in the late '50s ON HORSEBACK and gave tourists rides on Excelsior beach on the weekends. He said that in the '50s/'60s there was an amazing club next to the amusement park (gawn 1975, I remember it, carousel is in Valleyfair) where Stones/Beach Boys played.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

that and "borrow" for both "borrow" and "lend." that just makes nooo sense, i'd love to know the reason.

...i'd also love to knock-out every person that has ever made this mistake in conversation with me.

Yeah, I'll borrow you my bike
We're having EYE-talian food for dinner!
Have you tried expresso before? It's a delicious drink from Italy!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

haha how about SUNSETS?? now there's a bar.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

PHY = because it's, in syllable form, phy*si*cal.

Bring and take do, I admit, cause problems when Britishers decide to get pedantic.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

(Minnesota character trait: we're right. It's just like that. Just deal *smiles aggressively*)

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

We're also really nice! Want to stay for dinner? Barb made EYE-talian food!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:00 (twenty years ago)

dammit i kinda want to go to sunsets now, good lord.

actually has anyone ever been to DAVID FONG'S in richfield?

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

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