NRO's The Corner: Rolling Bile, Spit, and Gnash Thread

ha fuck it, i tried to say something. let's see if it gets in.

They've run all my comments.

This one's a charmer.

I love that most of the comments are all "um... you know that Republicans do this too, right"

Michael-- Brilliant prose. You give yourself a well-deserved pat on the back for your election night 2008 call about the Obamaniac Dems. I particularly liked the Nancy P as Maerose Prizzi reference. Maerose Pelosi's ethics complaint is all about protecting Hillary. If this Weiner nonsense hangs around for another week, his whole sham marriage of political convenience stuff comes tumbling out, and Hillary's relationship with the "wife" hits the headlines. Maerose Pelosi needs to head that off-- PRONTO.

They didn't post my: "thank you for speaking up for white people" a couple weeks ago ;(

Uncle Nordlinger lumbers onto the dancefloor

The American people are a lot like Weiner and Clinton: They just wanna get they freak on. And they don’t really mind whether public servants do. Such is life in a “post-moral” society. The “Sixties” — to use a broad, metaphorical term — have won.

this comment is still up there, somehow

Wow! Derb said, "Kevin MacDonald." OMG. The earth will tremble! The post by "Panic" is illustrative of the reaction that that name typically brings, perhaps more quickly on the Right -- eager for respectability -- than on the Left.

I was booted off the website that is HQ for lowbrow conservatism (FreeRepublic, bien sûr) on one occasion merely for making a reference to that gentleman. It was instant vaporization. He is the man who makes "respectable" conservatives mess their pants. Witness the post from the aptly named "Panic."

I am by no means a subscriber to the full body of thought postulated by Professor MacDonald. And yes, I am aware of his participation in the Clifford Irving libel case and find it very troubling. OTOH, I find very troubling the relentless assault on American culture that so often has had a decidely Jewish cast, notwithstanding that some great conservatives and people I count among my friends and heroes are of the Jewish faith.

relentless assault...

Today's discussion: flogging vs life imprisonment

RE: Bring Back the Lash
June 16, 2011 12:17 PM
By Kevin D. Williamson

Jonah and Andy: I’m not entirely sure about flogging, but I have long seriously advocated the return of stocks, especially for crimes of a nature that inherently degrade public life — vandalism, graffiti, automotive burglary, various kinds of public mayhem. I have in mind the kinds of crimes that undercut shared community life and encourage the further atomization of our society. I think 24 hours in the stocks for defacing a public space with graffiti would be appropriate, especially if the stocks were set up at the scene of the crime.

The list of things I think should be criminal is very short, and I tend to favor restitution-oriented justice over our current mass-incarceration model. But I also think that government should mostly do its business in public, including its punitive business. Public crimes ask for public punishments.

As for the flogging, I remember thinking in the case of young Michael Fay — you may remember: the snot-nosed American punk kid who got himself caned in Singapore back in 1994 — that the punishment was probably appropriate to the crime, perhaps even a little on the lenient side. I could endorse the stocks in such a case, along with full restitution.

Re: Bring Back the Lash
June 16, 2011 11:06 A.M.
By Andrew C. McCarthy

Jonah, this dovetails with a thought experiment I’ve been pushing for a while now, in rebuttal to the claim that waterboarding (as it was administered by the CIA on three top al-Qaeda detainees) is torture. If you gave every inmate serving, say, two years or less in prison the option of being waterboarded or completing his sentence, what would he choose? I’d be stunned if fewer than 95 percent chose waterboarding.

At least the commenters are making hash of his stupid argument.

I tend to favor restitution-oriented justice

jeez, don't tell andy mccarthy or pamela gellar...

xp oh christ above

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269784/re-bring-back-lash-andrew-c-mccarthy

good thought experiment: 2 years in prison vs going on the NRO cruise

hi dere!

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269208/prison-math-and-war-drugs-veronique-de-rugy

... wait where does the stupid part come in

daniel foster on the pulitzer prize winner who "came out" as an undocumented immigrant:

Liberals are coming out of the woodwork to call Vargas’ confession — meant to spur that “national conversation” about immigration that is perpetually just around the corner — courageous and pioneering. It is certainly the former, and may turn out to be the latter. But in their rush to praise Vargas — who is thoroughly culturally American and has “contributed” to American society with his journalism — they conveniently leave out that at the beginning of his story is not one but a series of crimes. Vargas entered the country illegally after his grandfather paid a coyote $4,500 to smuggle him in. The grandfather then obtained a fake passport and green card for Vargas, which they used to acquire a valid Social Security card. But that card, which subjected Vargas’ right to work to the approval of the then-INS, was illegally doctored, allowing Vargas to secure job after job for more than a decade by showing nothing more than a photocopy of a fake document.

heh, i dont think anyone is "leaving that out"? i think thats uhhhhh kind of the point.

which liberals have "come out" of "the woodwork"? First I heard of this story was when I read it in NRO World this morning.

well its a big cover page story in the nyt magazine!

what does "coyote" mean in immigration slang

its the guy who smuggles people over the border

What it says -- somebody paid a hungry coyote to smuggle the immigrant across the border in its mouth.

xp yeah i figured, wasn't sure if a "coyote" had any special designations beyond that

No regrets coyote -- it was just another false alarm.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_488/1269115212H50AT5.jpg

that really gives arizona's hockey team -- the phoenix coyotes -- a whole new context

and has “contributed” to American society with his journalism

shitty journalist calls out high-achieving journalist on account of worthlessness of journalism.

x-post No cognizance at all that the "crimes" committed are the equivalent or less than a rich dude writing off a golf trip as a business expense on his taxes.

liberals may THINK they're proud of vargas for being an illegal immigrant, but what they DON'T REALIZE is that his immigration to this country was ILLEGAL!

"coyote" clearly refers to hank quinlan.

liberals may THINK they're proud of vargas for being an illegal immigrant, but what they DON'T REALIZE is that his immigration to this country was ILLEGAL!

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just... magisterial:

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06/23/11 00:03

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I'm not sure why it's considered inhumane to make Vargas return to his country of legal residence, unless you're a racist and assume that it's an unbearable tragedy to have to live surrounded by Filipinos.

The Left certainly does not believe that one is entitled to a community that is culturally and ethnically static. Certainly they don't feel that *Americans* are entitled to it, given their overwhelmingly support for the dramatic changes which have occurred under the immigration policies of the last four decades. So Vargas's social milieu will change from SWPL Americans to Filipinos. Who cares?

As for the significant alteration in Vargas's quality of life, it will be little different than that experienced by millions of deadbeat homeowners forced from their overpriced McMansions and into rundown apartment complexes during the past 3 years.

Life happens. He'll adapt, and he'll get by, as will every other illegal deported for taking something that is not theirs.

omg

unless you're a racist and assume that it's an unbearable tragedy to have to live surrounded by Filipinos.

feel like somebody's projecting

wau, every sentence of that is a tiny little masterpiece

esp: "Who cares?"

hmm. i feel like i can think of at least 1 person who cares!

"Life happens."

post next time one of them gets pissed abt something

except abortion, i guess, ho ho

holy

haha zing

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270515/re-stonewall-friday-night-jason-lee-steorts

I'm baffled by that one! As a few of the commenters have said, these guys don't often disagree this personally in public.

never actually heard of that guy. last posted on the corner nearly a year ago.

I'd like to add that the very tyranny she alludes to, is being enforced, now, here, by you Jason Lee Steorts. She has the right to disagree with gay marriage on whatever grounds she pleases, or none at all. If only one view is 'right' or can be tolerated, and the other must be shunned or belittled, is that not a form of soft tyranny?

I'm really excited about reading KJL's response on Monday.

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06/26/11 20:13

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Four updates! This is starting to look like a Glenn Greenwald post.

Love how those tyrannical regimes (say, N.Korea) continually are bestowing new rights on their people.

Mr. Steorts:

Thank you for the excellent example of the tolerance we traditionalists will be graciously afforded under Gay Rule. I don't know what we could possibly be afraid of!

Gay Rule sounds kinda great!

Gay Rules:

If the straights were at the point, we forced them left and doubled them. If they were on the left wing, we went immediately to a double team from the top. If they were on the right wing, we went to a slow double team. And if they were on the box, we doubled with a big guy.

you forgot the fouling

the corner self-immolation later today? stay tuned

judging from the comments you'd think the NYS govt not only legalized "SSM" but also ordered every catholic to have anal sex before next sunday