First grotesque anal grafted stills for Tom Six's HUMAN CENTIPEDE (Fright Fest 2009 thread)

sweet movie is actually not bad at all except when they go into the documentary mode of studying that commune

the director was saying that his entire crew almost mutiny'd because the people in that commune were so intense

Haha after reading about all these movies, its kind of hilarious to see this re: Martyrs:

A US remake from the producers of Twilight is in the works.

Salo isn't half as bad as its reputation imo, and I don't think Pasolini's main aim was to gross out the kids.

Salo is a pretty funny movie come on now

if anything it makes all the horrible shit the fascists do look totally mundane/boring

I was about to say that it was boring yeah

i'm actually kind of curious about how the plot of part ii works -- like, to me 'guy watches the first movie, attempts to actually make it work in real life (this does not work), jerks off to it' seems like such an obvious attack on people who actually enjoy the first film that the idea of anyone simply getting off on the second one is .. weird

that said ppl who are horror obsessives have far more complicated relationships with this sort of thing than simply getting off on it (or simply 'enjoying' it, i guess, for that matter)

the only person i know who has seen cannibal holocaust ritually burnt his copy afterwards

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=31162

We emailed Tom Six for a response to the BBFC's decision and received the following quote, which we present here in full. The censoring of the F-word, ironically, is Six's.

“Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f****cking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.”

SPOILERS

okay he's an idiot

If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.

lol infinity

the first one did make a big deal out of how the science was "medically sound" which I'm guessing Six doesn't believe but it's a big step towards the second one

The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence): A US remake from the produces of Ramona and Beezus is in the works.

re "A Serbian Film":

As he is dying, Vukmir praises Milos's actions, saying "that's cinema." Confronting the final bodyguard, Miloš knocks off his sunglasses and discovers that the man is missing an eye. He tries to shoot him but finds out that the gun is empty. Miloš jams his erect penis into the man's empty eye socket, killing him.[9]

^^ amazing

all the people I know who went and saw serbian film are huge passolini fans

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

not sure what we're supposed to do with this information

/Salo/ isn't half as bad as its reputation imo, and I don't think Pasolini's main aim was to gross out the kids.

Yeah, I was kind of surprised at how... I don't want to say "tame" because fascists force people to eat bowls of poop which is kind of not tame by definition, but at how much of Salo I was able to watch. I thought I'd spend most of the movie with my eyes covered.

anyone who thinks that THIS is too much should read the synopsis of "A Serbian Film"

yeah, i've read a lot abt ASF, but have no interest in seeing that, either. maybe some day i'll weaken, cuz i've always felt the perverse allure of such extremes, but come on, i still haven't seen the guinea pig films, cerda's aftermath or the men behind the sun.

did see salo several years back, and was impressed, though i didn't enjoy it. it's very well made and occasionally funny, but also slow, repetitive and ultimately quite dispiriting. not the sort of thing i'll likely revisit. and martyrs is boring junk.

finally, object to sweet movie being discussed as a shock movie that transcends the horror genre. it's got shock scenes, sure, but has nothing to do with horror. it's a kitchen-sink political comedy with no violence or suspense to speak of. and it's great!

yeah after all the fuss Salo is pretty damn tame and boring. and rubbish.

it's a kitchen-sink political comedy with no violence or suspense to speak of.

well, no horror-type violence or suspense...

Wow okay just read the Wikipedia summary of A Serbian Film and I am very unhappy now.

yeah that movie is basically the worst idea in the world

Wow okay just read the Wikipedia summary of A Serbian Film and I am very unhappy now.

― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:33 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

p much.

like, it sorta ruined my day

all the people I know who went and saw serbian film are huge passolini fans
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

not sure what we're supposed to do with this information

― an actual guy talking in an actual rhythm (history mayne), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 11:51 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

I dunno man I just posted it. I was walking home and all these people were walking out of the building I live in, going to see a serbian film, and when I think about each of them and movies, I think about passolini, because that's who we end up talking about, when we talk about movies.

I don't know anything about a serbian film tho, one of my friends just said someone gives birth to a baby and someone immediately has sex with it, dunno if that actually happens

Per Wikipedia, yes. Also I think "rape" is more accurate than "has sex with" but I am pedantic about such things.

also re: sweet movie having nothing to do with horror, you're right on one hand, but I think the aim of a lot of it was to freak the viewer out in some way

oh yeah, it's transgressive all right, but not brutal or scary. it aims to blow your mind more than lay waste to your soul. that said, i'm sure tons of people have been horrified by it. i objected cuz i have problems with the contemporary thinking that equates anything particularly transgressive or shocking with the horror genre.

oh yeah, I forgot to mention, you probably shouldn't read the synopsis of A Serbian Film

Ha THANKS

I read that about four hours ago and still feel kinda ill. Want to scrub my brain. I don't think even the unwarranted pictures from rotten.com a "friend" sent me years and years ago made me feel this gross.

yeah about the only things I can think of that I find as gross as the synopsis of "A Serbian Film" are tubgirl and the picture of the dude who scraped off his face with glass while on PCP from rotten.com

i read the first few lines and saw it was about raping babies... how much did yall need to know?

there's enough incredibly depressing shit to read about irl without having to worry about the weird fantasies and lame rationalizations of extreme horror filmmakers/fans

lol @ this thread

history mayne OTM I didn't even bother reading the whole synopsis

like, this stuff has always been around, it isn't really worth paying attention to

serbian film attempts to do the same sort've thing as salo - turn sadism into a metaphor for political brutality - but it's so much more dumb and inelegant, compared to the pasolini, that it REALLY flatters it to be mentioned in the same breath/thought.

that being said, the bbfc are just as dumb; they know that this kind of (re)action just gets ppl to download these movies (i would never have bothered to watch a serbian film if they hadn't kicked up such a stink abt it), and as ever i would like to know how they're defining 'harm' and its effects - on what basis do they believe this film to be harmful (rather than tasteless or stupid or boring or whatever.) have they been 'harmed', also?

Martyrs is such a shit, shit movie. I get angry just thinking about it. A Serbian Film on the other hand at least feels like it's trying to communicate some genuine ideas about people reeling from unimaginable trauma, albeit in an incredibly overblown, ill-considered fashion.

Actually, the guy who wrote ASF also made this actually-pretty-decent historical fantasy flick (totally not scary or gross):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgGCH_E5yXE

What did you and c. not like about Martyrs? I thought people loved that movie.

some people seem to find Martyrs powerful or something but I fond it dishonest and flimsy.

i haven't seen ASF, and as i said, don't care to, but i did see a rather spectacularly brutal yugoslavian film called mehanizam ("the mechanism") several years back at a film festival. though it's a fairly traditional survival/endurance thriller, with none of the over-the-top transgressions that ASF apparently brings to the table, it was so unremittingly, sadistically bleak that it left me quite angry and shaken. walked out the theater absolutely hating it, but once the initial trauma wore off, i came to retropectively appreciate its craft and performances.

thing is, i wound up thinking a lot about mehanizam as the product of the "kosovo conflict" (and surrounding strife), of a generation that lived through a bloody civil war involving fascist tyranny, ethnic cleaning, the bombing of urban centers, etc. looking at it this way helped me understand the film's methods and message, as well as my own "civilized" distaste for its furious brutality. perhaps helps to see something like ASF in a similar context, though again, i'm speaking only of its reputation, in complete ignorance of the actual film.

some people seem to find Martyrs powerful or something but I fond it dishonest and flimsy.

― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:11 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

it was dumb, loud and flashy, with absolutely no interest in real character development, which made the third act seem almost completely pointless. i didn't care about anything onscreen, though i did think that the basic idea was interesting.

had similar objections to a l'interieur ("inside"), a film often mentioned in the same breath, but at least that a credible central character and a sense of playful exuberance to balance out the heavy-handed "extremity".

"...at least that had a credible central character..."

Maybe there will be a string of movies: Sebian Beauty, Serbian Dad, Serbian Pastoral.

martyrs is my favorite horror film of the last 10 years

had similar objections to a l'interieur ("inside"), a film often mentioned in the same breath, but at least that a credible central character and a sense of playful exuberance to balance out the heavy-handed "extremity".

yeah Inside was at least upfront about being a brutish genre flick.

I think the biggest problem I have with anything at all torture porn-ish is the vacuous nihilism which informs it and is perpetuated by its existence. I actually don't think I'd mind seeing something that utilized those elements in a more well-rounded or thoughtful way (kinda thinking of something like the interview in DFW's Brief Interviews With Hideous Men where the guy details being sodomized with the broken bottle). Which probably scoots it out of the strict confines of horror. But, y'know, balancing out those extremes of human depravity with hope and some willingness to survive beyond that. I dunno, maybe some of the stuff that's already out there qualifies. I just know that I'm too overly-sensitive to expose myself to depictions of humanity's capacity for atrocious cruelty that I'm not really all that willing to look into this stuff on the off chance that I might find something that won't make me wanna snuff it.

change topic a little bit, is HC2 the only sequel that uses its predecessor as an actual film? the idea of HC2 being a movie about someone who was inspired by the first movie seems like something that's never been done before and is really a cool concept.

Blair Witch 2. Return of the Living Dead (sorta).