it is one thing to say there is a load of money lying around, another thing entirely to actually get it into the state's maw.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
not even necessarily advocating that- indeed, for as long as our govts seem intent on throwing it into bank debt and current deficits and the like, keep it away from them.
but there must be ways to get it out and spent, get some cash swimming along the main streets again
boardsdeals.ie is a good idea, i suppose, something along those lines maybe, but on a somewhat grander scale. people will allow themselves to spend on non-necessities if the can be convinced they're getting a bargain.
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
and let's face it, our economy was based on a lot of non-necessary spending. if you weren't a property developer you were a celebrity gardening hairdresser interior personal fortune consultant at the weekends, or you simply weren't anybody, daaarling
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
brian lenihan dies
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
hmmmm
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
maybe should have posted that to the excelsior thread tbf.
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
i jest, i jest. Kinda.
He lasted longer than most people expected, i suppose.
The decision to keep working was an interesting one.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
he had form in denying the inevitable realities.
God, it's a whitewash out there atm. Unsurprising, a young man with a young family passes away, and not in an easy manner- but his political legacy can't be rewritten because of his illness/death. They should probably leave it out of the platitudes altogether.
Too soon, i suppose. I'm probably racking up the irish sb's.
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
It's incredible that he was making a serious attempt to be FF leader six months after most doctors thought he'd be dead. Can't fault the optimism.
The whitewash is to be expected, and won't last long. I don't know whether he'll be seen in the long term as a decent-enough guy who was incapable of dealing with a set of circumstances beyond the control of anyone in his party or someone who made a bad situation exponentially worse. I get the impression that there was a level of residual respect for him in a lot of quarters, even if only in comparison to the rest of FF.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
you're right of course. I'll just grit me teeth for a week.
I think labelling ahern, cowen, lenihan et al as merely misguided or incompetent is possibly naive.
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
Bertie was a wrong 'un. No question.
I'm slightly more inclined to believe that Cowen and Lenihan were victims of circumstance, to a degree, but they all bear at least some moral responsibility for their complicity in a patently rotten system.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
it's all the bank guarantee, that's where the country was brought into it. That's brian's baby i'm afraid
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
That's true, and will define whatever legacy he has. I'm not really defending him but i have a sliver of sympathy for anyone dealing with the house of cards that Ahern and the bankers left behind, even if they were in a position to do more about it while it was being constructed.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
oh god don't mention the c word
― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol
Can't believe this isn't working
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
Any sign that other ratings agencies might downgrade?
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
not really, reports seem to have it as a bit of a pre-emptive move tbh
course, if markets react badly...?
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
cross ref with the abuse thread, but feel like enda was strong today.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0721/1224301063509.html
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
I agree, I was very impressed by him and I've never voted FG in my life.
― gyac, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
hadn't read the full thing until just now.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0721/1224301061733.html
booming imo
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
bout time people started using the word "rape"
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
abuse is far too kind to these guys
yep.
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
In one case, the abuser even officiated at the victim’s own wedding
pretty horrible
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
cant even process tbh.
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link
v well written speech, credit enda's speechwriter.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link
party political stuff devalued it tho
yes
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
xp maybe so, but tbf in context he's announcing a pretty radical departure in attitude towards dealing with the church on this and maybe other issues, and it's correct to note that FF have been complicit in the obfuscation of the church/state divide not just historically, but up to eg the agreement to indemnify the church against the cost of legal settlements as recently as 2002 and since then a marked reluctance to challenge clerical law as a relevant factor in any of this.
The previous govt failed to address these issues, and these issues are an intolerable disgrace. While noting that the state had responsibility for its failings, i think it's allowable and fair to point out that it was a previous administration that allowed the muddy waters to stay muddy for so long.
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
― gyac, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
that worked out pretty well, huh?
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 22 July 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
god help me but apts in dublin are beginning to look like half decent value
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
prime time going in on nama. Informative but not great analysis.
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone been watching The Rise And Fall Of Fianna Fail?
Not sure how much light it sheds but its proving good value on the sniping and self-justification fronts. The brass neck of Bertie's 'nothing to do with me' routine is amazing.
― A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
that's not a new routine tbf, haven't seen this tho
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
ShariVari is not one of us, hence his astonishment at obvious lols like the Bertie routine.
I enjoyed Celia's digs, a lot.
It's on TV3's site but not streaming outside Ireland as far as I can tell.
― gyac, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
ShariVari is not one of us
in what way is he or she not One Of Us?
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
I'm English so a lot of the politics is relatively new to me.
― A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
wtf
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
avaunt
avaunt ye sassenach i ses
Have won over gyac's mammy. Will win over the rest of you yet.
― A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
a displayname slagging peter crouch is, admittedly, a fine start
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
ira president?
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
lolling v hard and enjoying these disbelieving shutin pricks
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
poll
o'donoghue ahern mansergh
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Monday, 19 September 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
I see McGuinness has trotted out the "West Brit" insult directed at anyone who doesn't feel comfortable with one of the former Army Council chiefs as our* head of state.
*Not that I get a fucking vote, I bet.
― gyac, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
he has? Wtg mairtin that'll show em
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yes. Apparently he's fine to answer questions about the past though, if the time period in question is restricted to the last two years.
― gyac, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link