New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

on the fence about instapaper. Marco (creator) seems to think/hope that his social sharing aspects of instapaper will be one thing that saves it, and that reading list will introduce more and more people to the concept, some of whom will want to upgrade to more robust features. I only use the most basic instapaper features, so maybe reading list will be fine for me. I assume if I'm on a PC using Firefox or whatever, I can log onto iCloud and access my reading list, like I can access instapaper from anywhere? I also assume other apps will pick up the link, like currently I'll be using reeder on my iPhone and hit an article I want to "read later" and depending on how I want to remember it, I'll either star it, or I'll send it to instapaper. I assume I'll be able to send it to reading list as well.

Yeah, Marco is high. Think this will do to instapaper what iTunes did to Audion. But only if apps can also add to the list (I think they can) and if the last works offline (not sure about this).

being a lil indie developer bro is tough, almost like you dont want yr app to get too popular

http://grab.by/cAVz

lol

Set to Silent --> at midnight

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 6:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Yeah, dumbfounded that a night mode still doesn't exist. there are these things http://www.thesilentnight.com/ but you might as well stick the phone in a drawer instead

yeah better to suck because then yahoo will buy you xp

They are doing unconscionable things to file > quit in lion btw.

hahaha what are they doing?

The thing I find annoying about the concept of "never start from scratch again!" is... what if you WANT to start from scratch?

If you leave an app and the system wants to, it will quit it. But the dot will stay in the doc and the icon will stay in the cmd-tab switcher. When you click on it then it will relaunch silently.

BUT if you actually choose file -> quit, the app will look like it has quit -- the dot disappears, it disappears from the switcher etc. Except ... It’s still running and doesn't quit. It might do later, if the system wants to.

Dan: yeh the persistence is scary -- they're going to persist apps across reboots and even restarts. Turning it on and off again is going to leave just as fucked as you were when you started.

this is totally one of those "I thought I wanted this before you gave it to me" features

If you leave an app and the system wants to, it will quit it. But the dot will stay in the doc and the icon will stay in the cmd-tab switcher. When you click on it then it will relaunch silently.

BUT if you actually choose file -> quit, the app will look like it has quit -- the dot disappears, it disappears from the switcher etc. Except ... It’s still running and doesn't quit. It might do later, if the system wants to.

my head hurts

this might be some cart leading the horse miscalculation on apple's part, but
properly built applications should never need to be quit and restarted.
maybe this will force companies to make better applications?
I'm hoping it at least forces apple to do it with its own software.

yeah kind of comes down to 'how well it works'

I think introducing a persistence feature that hangs on the assumption that applications never become corrupted is... well the nice way to put it is "optimistic"

i'm sure they will be a way to reset things

like hold option when launching or whatever, like safe mode

seeing as I just discovered TODAY how to quit apps on my iPhone, I am pretty certain it will be a PITA to do so

yes a good portion of that is user error, but then again maybe your device should have a real manual

You can force a quit an app using activity monitor like before, but there's no way to make it ignore its resume data (unless the app itself offers one). Clearing that will mean filesystem pokery.

drag

"we are apple, you will do it our way"

"we are apple"

yeah i tried to run an app that controlled time and and one that ran dos 3.0 and steve jobs personally vetoed them both.

none of this new stuff thrills me

In contrast, this does:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/07/ios-5-works-just-fine-on-iphone-3gs/

(Already announced but this is some early confirmation from developers. That being the case I'm likely going to hold off on the presumed September iPhone upgrade in favor of what sounds like will be a full LTE version next year.)

I find it amusing that apple is so anti pr0n

They don't like pr0n apps, but porn works quite fine on all Apple devices, trust me.

Meanwhile, corporate campuses...of the future!!!

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/08/steve-jobs-pitches-cupertino-on-new-apple-campus/

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/newapplecampus.jpg

He clearly lives in that outfit, doesn't he:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M

oh man he is so ill

I don't dwell on Jobs' morbidity, but I do wonder if he's thinking at this point he wants to get as much done as quickly as possible before he's gone.

haven't had a chance to read up much on this, but how resource hungry is lion looking to be?

i'm not liking the idea of all this extra whiz stuff if it compromises the speed of my machine. just got a new imac and i'm loving the fact it can take pretty much any video or audio stuff i throw at it.

I trust you MH.

Steve Jobs seems more and more like a james bond villian everyday

Finally, the new accessibility options Apple has included in iOS 5 are nothing short of incredible. You can enable the LED flash to blink during alerts, and you can even create your own custom vibration patterns for specific contacts by tapping out patterns on the display

not that I actually feel the vibration, but this is cool.

more bells and whistles

yes, all kinds of new tones. But this is a feature you don't hear.

Steve Jobs seems more and more like a james bond villian everyday

― Latham Green, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:59 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iDavros

are there any more details about autosaving? i love the idea that nobody ever has to "save" anything, ever, for any reason - but i'm also wondering how you make versions happen.

well you can flip back through the autosaves time machine style and presumably save as if you want to create a second document

yeah, that makes sense.

one more q: this is so obvious it must have been asked, but i can't find an answer about what happens when your music won't fit on a device. my iphone doesn't have the space to store all my music. so how does the iCloud know what to put on it?

I assume you tell it what to put on it, just like you do now with playlists.

I've been downloading stuff I bought using my phone that wasn't currently on it via the iTunes app; it all ends up connected to the "Purchased on this iPhone" playlist.

I'd hate to have to systematically sync my "purchased" playlist since it mostly contains drunkenly shazam-ed atrocities.

Sounds like that would be a brilliant playlist!

can I get a whut-whut!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/images/2005/03/15/davros_daleks2_resurrection_terry_malloy2_400_400x300.jpg

Oh-tomate! Oh-tomate!

how does the iCloud know what to put on it?

checkboxes.

does anyone have the newest nano - I cant help but think the previous is way better - what no camera!?

checkboxes.

― jed_, Thursday, June 9, 2011 12:34 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh god dont tell AA

I hate these DRm itunes purchases - why should I have less ability to do things with files I actually paid for? so idiotic

Do you mean video or apps? Because they dropped DRM on music files a long time ago.