The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

this shit is fucking ridiculous

You are all awful people.

yes, i believe that was the point behind dom's comment. xp

― s1ocki

for some reason i misread his comment but it is a good point

I don't ask anyone to agree with me that The Sopranos was alarmingly dumb/awful, I just kinda want to wave that opinion in people's faces to make them vexed and indignant. It's like contrarianism, except there's no shred of pretending involved.

Someone needs to try the ketchup with the relish.

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lol

oh no an idiot on the internet has a stupid opinion: how vexing.

really cannot believe the turnout here, or the margin.

I could never get into The Sopranos. I watched the first five episodes and then just never bothered to go back. It didn't seem bad, I just didn't connect with it.

nabisco's just flaunting his otm all-star status these days... careful dude, we can take that away just as fast

playing with fire: master and commander: oh how I enjoyed this movie

more like tldr all-star status.

take the high road dude

Ha, caek, I was just thinking about that thread: Sopranos and that movie are totally two things I will stubbornly/smugly go on forever refusing to believe can possibly be considered good.

^ We all need such things, it's just fundamentally healthy

somebody's got a case of the mondays

To be fair, I think The Sopranos is for sure way better than Master & Commander (though I think that about a lot of things)

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"The More You Eat Cookies"

on the cookies

I voted for the Wire, btw, but I haven't seen Sopranos, so you maybe want to discount that.

nice, just 75 more to go

i mean 85

if you give a nabs a cookie, he'll ask for some milk

i've still only seen The Wire s01e01

dont you mean The_Wire_s01e01.torrent

hahahaha

I'm pretty sure if I had only seen one episode of each my opinion would be exactly the same. It's simple enough to say I have far more of a connection with the themes and characters in The Wire than I'll ever have with anybody in The Sopranos. If my life was a little different maybe I'd get the Sopranos as much as I do The Wire, but I doubt it. I don't care how cool Dad's job is, it's still a show about Dad. Dad shows are boring.

I voted for The Wire, but felt conflicted doing so. Not that I'm a streetwise fellow, but The Wire seemed to have an uncanny verisimilitude which transcended not only the medium of television, but most contemporary fiction period. Ah, but for delicious storytelling and characterization, The Sopranos set the bar so high for pretenders to the throne that this past decade has been a joy to behold in terms of TV drama. And I would've voted Tony, if not for seasons 4 & 5 derailing the series somewhat before the brilliant final run. FWIW, I know I've extolled its merits on other threads, but even as a (slightly) inferior stepchild of these shows overall, The Shield selectively combined the most effective elements of each series to bow out in the best final run I've ever seen.

pillbox i was gonna stomp on this jagger-ish "transcended not only the medium of television, but most contemporary fiction period" bs but then saw you're a shield man so we cool.

Final season of The Shield > Final season of The Wire

I feel bad for people who have become less down with The Wire because they know all these "Wire Stans"

ugh people like it now

like, they like it a lot

because I totally understand starting to lose respect for something for no good reason at all besides encountering a sudden outcrop of people who say they love it but the way they love it has absolutely nothing to do with why you think it deserves to be loved (and/or totally insincere checking douche patrol, stabbing is the answer)

I would say my opinion of the sopranos was painted in this way before I even watched an episode, e.g. 2002: wow I have been given the opportunity to sit in on this big conference room meeting with serious thinky govt dudes in suits and shiny officers who are going to talk about the future of united states intelligence analysis technology, look at that guy down there, he is in charge of some amazing shit, what? oh he's starting the entire meeting by talking about the last sopranos episode. between this experience and the theme song which people keep making me listen to I think I'm gonna go ahead and hate this show.

final season of king of queens > final season of the wire

final season of ed, final season of october road, final season of weeds

xpost: Yeah, for having such great closing songs throughout the series, they sure mucked up an otherwise fine opening sequence with that terrible, terrible music.

i like the sopranos' opening music, but it isn't as good as the shield's opening music.

re wire stans: fair enough, some of my best friends are wire stans.

what i have in mind is this entry in the guardian's '12 biggest douchebags of the year' list:

"The 'hopper' in The Wire who shot Omar

How could you do it? HOW COULD YOU? You ruined everything!"

fuck that noise.

seriously I was all ready to love gandolfini but my first sopranos episode watching experience had a lot of ground to cover just to get to 0 after being exposed to some of the fanclub - I have yet to meet a huge Wire fan who disgusted me. I think living in the balt/wash area adjusts in both directions for fanbase - the ppl I encounter who love Tony are poseurs by default and the ppl I encounter who love Omar generally are able to point to an aspect of their own life and say "they did this part exactly how it is"

ima level with you: here in cambridge, cambridgeshire, i don't meet many people who have come up like omar, or like big t. there's dom, i guess.

thank you, for leveling with me.

"The 'hopper' in The Wire who shot Omar

How could you do it? HOW COULD YOU? You ruined everything!"

fuck that noise.

!!!!!!!!!!!

We only have three more eps before we finish. :(

a totally unrelated question: which will "age" better? will anyone be watching these shows ten years from now?

not suggesting that effect their quality now, but curious if whether the supposed realism of a show like The Wire will "date" it, or at least reveal the seams in its' worldview.

probably one for a b'more to answer, but a lot of the wire seems to apply as much to the 80s and 90s as right now. eg the towers that the barksdales run in s01-02 had actually been demolished sometime in the 90s?

dunno,

Sopranos is about the human mind and depression and family, all of which never change. The Wire is very built into the contemporary drug trade, media, unions, slang, all of which can be wildly different in 10 years time.

(also, the sopranos is coming up for its tenth anniversary, 'the wire' for its seventh -- they seem to be holding up ok.)

lolz Tombot doesn't have kids = can't appreciate Sopranos. okay

other boring shit about dads: the Bible, Hamlet, etc.

the ppl I encounter who love Tony are poseurs by default and the ppl I encounter who love Omar generally are able to point to an aspect of their own life and say "they did this part exactly how it is"

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You don't know any Catholics, huh?

well, im not suggesting certain things "never change"--but is the sopranos more a self-contained universe? and is the Wire dependent at all upon an effect of "oh wow THAT'S how it really is" for it's emotional or thematic weight?

the is Wire dependent at all upon an effect of "oh wow THAT'S how it really is" for stuffwhitepeoplelike.com