i cant really judge anyone for voting for the wire, it's a great show and horses for courses, but man is nabisco ever off tm right here.
― s1ocki, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
That's right, s1ocki, just sit there and let me CHALLOPS you
― nabisco, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
well-assembled but ultimately pointless and awful and insanely overrated show
wasn't gonna say it (at least not unless it won), but yeah.
― Mankini Bay (some dude), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link
this shit is fucking ridiculous
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
You are all awful people.
― Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, i believe that was the point behind dom's comment. xp
― s1ocki
for some reason i misread his comment but it is a good point
― soup kitchen electro (omar little), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't ask anyone to agree with me that The Sopranos was alarmingly dumb/awful, I just kinda want to wave that opinion in people's faces to make them vexed and indignant. It's like contrarianism, except there's no shred of pretending involved.
― nabisco, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Someone needs to try the ketchup with the relish.
― Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― Go Go Padgett Binoculars
lol
― craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
oh no an idiot on the internet has a stupid opinion: how vexing.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
really cannot believe the turnout here, or the margin.
― kuntrie/hardrock-tributes (goole), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I could never get into The Sopranos. I watched the first five episodes and then just never bothered to go back. It didn't seem bad, I just didn't connect with it.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco's just flaunting his otm all-star status these days... careful dude, we can take that away just as fast
― s1ocki, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
playing with fire: master and commander: oh how I enjoyed this movie
― caek, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
more like tldr all-star status.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
take the high road dude
― s1ocki, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, caek, I was just thinking about that thread: Sopranos and that movie are totally two things I will stubbornly/smugly go on forever refusing to believe can possibly be considered good.
^ We all need such things, it's just fundamentally healthy
― nabisco, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
somebody's got a case of the mondays
― kuntrie/hardrock-tributes (goole), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
To be fair, I think The Sopranos is for sure way better than Master & Commander (though I think that about a lot of things)
― nabisco, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196970_nabisco_footballers/nabisco.gif
― craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
"The More You Eat Cookies"
― nabisco, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
on the cookies
― s1ocki, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted for the Wire, btw, but I haven't seen Sopranos, so you maybe want to discount that.
― caek, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
nice, just 75 more to go
― s1ocki, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean 85
if you give a nabs a cookie, he'll ask for some milk
― so i said let me HOOS the beats and steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
i've still only seen The Wire s01e01
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
dont you mean The_Wire_s01e01.torrent
― ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahaha
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure if I had only seen one episode of each my opinion would be exactly the same. It's simple enough to say I have far more of a connection with the themes and characters in The Wire than I'll ever have with anybody in The Sopranos. If my life was a little different maybe I'd get the Sopranos as much as I do The Wire, but I doubt it. I don't care how cool Dad's job is, it's still a show about Dad. Dad shows are boring.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted for The Wire, but felt conflicted doing so. Not that I'm a streetwise fellow, but The Wire seemed to have an uncanny verisimilitude which transcended not only the medium of television, but most contemporary fiction period. Ah, but for delicious storytelling and characterization, The Sopranos set the bar so high for pretenders to the throne that this past decade has been a joy to behold in terms of TV drama. And I would've voted Tony, if not for seasons 4 & 5 derailing the series somewhat before the brilliant final run. FWIW, I know I've extolled its merits on other threads, but even as a (slightly) inferior stepchild of these shows overall, The Shield selectively combined the most effective elements of each series to bow out in the best final run I've ever seen.
― Cat-Wrangler (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 08:32 (fifteen years ago) link
pillbox i was gonna stomp on this jagger-ish "transcended not only the medium of television, but most contemporary fiction period" bs but then saw you're a shield man so we cool.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Final season of The Shield > Final season of The Wire
― Cat-Wrangler (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel bad for people who have become less down with The Wire because they know all these "Wire Stans"
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh people like it now
― so i said let me HOOS the beats and steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link
like, they like it a lot
― so i said let me HOOS the beats and steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
because I totally understand starting to lose respect for something for no good reason at all besides encountering a sudden outcrop of people who say they love it but the way they love it has absolutely nothing to do with why you think it deserves to be loved (and/or totally insincere checking douche patrol, stabbing is the answer)
I would say my opinion of the sopranos was painted in this way before I even watched an episode, e.g. 2002: wow I have been given the opportunity to sit in on this big conference room meeting with serious thinky govt dudes in suits and shiny officers who are going to talk about the future of united states intelligence analysis technology, look at that guy down there, he is in charge of some amazing shit, what? oh he's starting the entire meeting by talking about the last sopranos episode. between this experience and the theme song which people keep making me listen to I think I'm gonna go ahead and hate this show.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
final season of king of queens > final season of the wire
final season of ed, final season of october road, final season of weeds
― cozwn, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost: Yeah, for having such great closing songs throughout the series, they sure mucked up an otherwise fine opening sequence with that terrible, terrible music.
― Cat-Wrangler (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the sopranos' opening music, but it isn't as good as the shield's opening music.
re wire stans: fair enough, some of my best friends are wire stans.
what i have in mind is this entry in the guardian's '12 biggest douchebags of the year' list:
"The 'hopper' in The Wire who shot Omar
How could you do it? HOW COULD YOU? You ruined everything!"
fuck that noise.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously I was all ready to love gandolfini but my first sopranos episode watching experience had a lot of ground to cover just to get to 0 after being exposed to some of the fanclub - I have yet to meet a huge Wire fan who disgusted me. I think living in the balt/wash area adjusts in both directions for fanbase - the ppl I encounter who love Tony are poseurs by default and the ppl I encounter who love Omar generally are able to point to an aspect of their own life and say "they did this part exactly how it is"
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link
ima level with you: here in cambridge, cambridgeshire, i don't meet many people who have come up like omar, or like big t. there's dom, i guess.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link
thank you, for leveling with me.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link
!!!!!!!!!!!
We only have three more eps before we finish. :(
― Not Everyone Can Be Tupac (Susan), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
a totally unrelated question: which will "age" better? will anyone be watching these shows ten years from now?
not suggesting that effect their quality now, but curious if whether the supposed realism of a show like The Wire will "date" it, or at least reveal the seams in its' worldview.
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
probably one for a b'more to answer, but a lot of the wire seems to apply as much to the 80s and 90s as right now. eg the towers that the barksdales run in s01-02 had actually been demolished sometime in the 90s?
― generally seems to hate all the right people (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
dunno,
Sopranos is about the human mind and depression and family, all of which never change. The Wire is very built into the contemporary drug trade, media, unions, slang, all of which can be wildly different in 10 years time.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
(also, the sopranos is coming up for its tenth anniversary, 'the wire' for its seventh -- they seem to be holding up ok.)
― generally seems to hate all the right people (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz Tombot doesn't have kids = can't appreciate Sopranos. okay
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
other boring shit about dads: the Bible, Hamlet, etc.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link