New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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guy i know is a senior engineer for seagate and can't say enough bad things about the long-term reliability of SSDs

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 3 June 2011 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

hah maybe he's just looking out for his own job?

dayo, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

was gonna say. they can't really be any worse than HDDs.

caek, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

Big difference is apptly that when HDs die there's a reasonable chance a lot of the data is intact on the platter and can be rescued (for £££) while failing SSDs often fail hard and are unrecoverable.

stet, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

well £££ is just it. hdd failures are, de facto, unrecoverable. i have never recovered data from a hdd with a mechanical failure.

had two fail in may btw.

caek, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but regardless of whether you use SSD or magnets, you ought to practice good backup hygiene

dayo, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

dayo otm, a dead drive is a dead drive, you all should be backing up like your life depends on it anyway

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

what is "backup"?

caek, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

caek iirc you never backup any of your ish, shame on you

dayo, Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:09 (fifteen years ago)

AA, Apple grains little by switching to an A5 in a mba -- a little bit of battery life -- and loses any apps that differentiate the air from an iPad. Unless there's a really good economic reason, like Intel goes insane and screws up the mass volume discount Apple gets, so not gonna happen.

mh, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

the whole development chain for OS X is cpu agnostic these days, so they would be unlikely to lose any apps (and for those they do, there's lol rosetta).

caek, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I was just thinking about the fact you'd be getting a less capable processor and the whole reason people get a small Mac like that is so that they can still run Photoshop, Aperture, etc.

mh, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

that is true

caek, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

So what I'm basically saying is AA probably isn't going to be taking over for Steve Jobs any time soon

mh, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

haha

caek, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

couldn't bear for the one more thing to be about check boxes

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Sunday, 5 June 2011 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.egpchecks.com/images/143042m.gif

Euler, Sunday, 5 June 2011 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

There's a market for computers with keyboards. I've no doubt that Jobs is pursuing ways to make the low-end laptops more affordable, especially after recent comments made by Schiller/Cook/whomever indicating the intent to dull the perception that Apple only makes products for rich people. The ipad is just the company's first grand gesture toward cheap home computing imo.

Autumn Alma Park Toilets (Schlafsack), Sunday, 5 June 2011 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

what comments?

i think you're making a mistake thinking in terms of apple as something that responds to/thinks relative to PC market price brackets/hardware paradigms.

caek, Sunday, 5 June 2011 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

iPhones used to be "rich-ppl only", but now that they're subsidized heavily by AT&T and available on Verizon, and it seems like people are more willing to accept a monthly cell bill with a data plan (I'm still not) regardless of their income, I see it really everywhere in the last year

iPad really is a great breakthrough for Apple though, whenever I see people with it, especially older folks, they really get into it. Facetime too. Once my father saw an iPad that a friend brought over (he's in his late 60s), he more or less decided that day that he'd rather have an iPad than a new desktop to replace his aging computer... makes sense since 90% of what he does is web browse anyway. I'm sure there are a lot of anecdotes like this

Nhex, Sunday, 5 June 2011 23:34 (fifteen years ago)

i think you're making a mistake thinking in terms of apple as something that responds to/thinks relative to PC market price brackets/hardware paradigms.

― caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 08:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uh I didn't. btw I can't find that comment about Apple intending to take the edge off its reputation for making exclusive products, which is weird because tech blogs made a big deal of it. I'm probably searching for the wrong keywords.

Autumn Alma Park Toilets (Schlafsack), Monday, 6 June 2011 00:35 (fifteen years ago)

(iirc it came out of the q&a following the most recent earnings call)

Autumn Alma Park Toilets (Schlafsack), Monday, 6 June 2011 00:35 (fifteen years ago)

I think the deal used to be (and still is) that all PCs used to be really expensive, and now commodity hardware is cheap as hell, but they still would prefer to sell you a laptop for a few hundred more and possibly a service plan than the race to the bottom the entire PC market became. People will complain about lack of expansion, modifiability or customization, but when it comes down to it, Apple jettisons that stuff in lieu of a solid market position.

So yeah, they may have some lower price things, but they'd still rather sell you a $1k laptop that has vetted parts and their own OS than crank out netbooks at $500

mh, Monday, 6 June 2011 05:50 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah. I don't think Apple dude (jeezus I wish I could find the quote now) was saying they would compete with netbooks or anything, just that they want to bring Apple's perceived price aloofness down a peg. I assume that could well mean – perhaps as soon as this year – an underpowered ipad-a-like (let's call it an iPissweak) that integrates heavily with the icloud (c.f. chromebook, but nowhere near as reliant on connectivity) with no true multitasking support, a keyboard and a 10-hour battery for US$600. Cheap as chips to produce and wouldn't necessarily poke a big hole in the existing product categories. You know, so the MBPs remain in place for ~real~ computing tasks but yer average nanna could pick up an iPissweak to check emails and play solitaire. I'm just thinking aloud here.

Autumn Alma Park Toilets (Schlafsack), Monday, 6 June 2011 06:06 (fifteen years ago)

they want to bring Apple's perceived price aloofness down a peg

i'd be very surprised if that was the stated/actual goal, and there is no way they will release the computer you're talking about when they have ipads for sale.

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 06:44 (fifteen years ago)

1) it's a bad idea in an absolute sense for any big company (there's no mass market for it and profit margins would be terrible) 2) it's a bad idea for a company making ipads (which are clearly where it sees its future) and MBAs

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 06:48 (fifteen years ago)

1) not necessarily terrible if (a) it's megacheap to produce and (b) they sell
2) MBPs will most likely shrink to the size of the current MBAs over time

Autumn Alma Park Toilets (Schlafsack), Monday, 6 June 2011 06:51 (fifteen years ago)

1) it's not megacheap to produce and they wouldn't sell. there is no mass market for netbooks.
2) so? why does that mean apple should make a netbook?

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 08:28 (fifteen years ago)

what part of "I'm just thinking aloud here" are you struggling with

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 08:56 (fifteen years ago)

i'm just thinking out loud that your thinking is lol

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/iOS-5-home-screen-leak.jpg

Doing the rounds, probably made-up, potentially not, potentially nice.

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

(also potentially like three years too late)

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

tweetstreams? in MY statusbar? hahaha HOW'S THE WEATHER IN 2010, CAVEMAN

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

i'm facebooking my tumblr reblogs SO HARD IN YOUR FACE, iOS

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

i want to COMMENT on the CLOCK

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

I suspect it's more notifications being up and out of the way than tweets being in the status bar. That's if the screenshot is even real.

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, it's like a crap Android notification tray.

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/Scobleizer/status/76618122366431232

groovypanda, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

Oops, wrong link (that one above was to the original Tweet)
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/03/more-claims-of-deep-twitter-integration-in-ios-5/

groovypanda, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

Is it just me or is deep Twitter integration the most boring rumour ever?

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

i don't know, it sounds a bit erotic

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

there have been more boring rumours, but that's up there. depressing if true.

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

i'm intrigued by the nonexistent concept of "deep Twitter"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

afaict (if true) it means you get an "Open in Twitter..." button above the "Open in iBooks..." one, plus those notifications with a birdy logo

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

etc

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

i'd prefer more Instapaper integration but to each giant technology company his own

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

Gruber's noises about icloud being an itunes replacement is enticing if only because it would mean the death of fucking itunes

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

what are the rumours for icloud?

full cloud storage and streaming of music collection?

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

at least that

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 11:58 (fifteen years ago)


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