Rolling Cannabis Politics Thread

Only when smoked. Ingestion does not entail that risk.

ditto vaporization.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

not v surprising, imo

even the headiest of heads aren't cycling as much smoke through their lungs as a pack a day smoker, i would think.

It might even be protective bc THC apparently helps discard old cells before they can be cancerous!!

right after nate dogg died I went into a weed store where I guess they have pictures of people who frequented the store or people they admired or something and right under a picture of nate dogg someone has just tacked on a torn half sheet of binder paper with the words RIP scrawled in pencil

yeah but the vast majority of people don't vaporize or ingest cannabis

presumably there's a risk of lung cancer if you smoke spliffs, tho the extent to which that is from the THC or from the tobacco...

it is not from either THC or tobacco, it is from carbon combustion products

anyway i am familiar with that study and i think the jury is clearly still out on this one

anyway, if in fact the only risk is from smoking cannabis, doesn't it behoove us to teach ppl how to use it responsibly (ingest/vape/etc)?

yes

People have to be not-scared to cook with it before that can happen though.

or they can just buy already-prepared butter and oil at the dispensary

I think I asked about vaporizers on another thread recently...

eating and vaping just isn't the same as smoking imo

what dispensary? let's start there.

I have no horse in this race but could ppl maybe use a different abbreviation than "vape" because every time I skim this thread I have horrible urges to write U GONNA GET VAPED all over it

not really seeing the problem there tbh

eating and vaping just isn't the same as smoking imo

you're crazy. they're better.

Yeah in many ways but sometimes u just wanna blaze a doob

to me, eating comes on too slow, lasts too long, and is hard to dose. most of the time it seems to to do too little or too much (not a problem obv. if "too much" is never an issue for you).

Some of the things that the vapists seem to prefer aren't really for me: a "cleaner" feel, more up or alert or whatever.

it is not from either THC or tobacco, it is from carbon combustion products

this

which, again, is probably why you don't see cancer in weed smokers---they just don't burn the same amount as heavy smokers. like for real can you imagine smoking 20-40 joints a day? my god it's full of stars

24 hr headache

a "cleaner" feel, more up or alert or whatever.

didn't realize this was associated with vaporizers but now that you mention it that is definitely something i experience with mine and something i greatly prefer. i like being able to smoke then go out and do stuff.

Tbh, I'm really shocked that they consider Solvents, LSD, Ritalin, Anabolic Steroids, GHB, Ecstasy and Khat less risky than Cannabis.

lung issues aside, I'd def put E below cannabis. makes users brighter and more motivated afterwards, far less likely to become habitual, has led to about three deaths in thirty years, all from too much or too little water while over-exercising, not the drug itself... (discounting polydrug use of more dangerous substances)

since when does ecstasy make people brighter?

Is the volcano still the best bet for vapin or are cheaper ones just as good?

Volcano is still the best but for the money the significantly cheaper VaporBrothers is tremendous.

brighter as in can engender an outgoing and positive outlook ongoing, not suddenly able to do high-level calculus

oh right

take it to the dawkins thread

Thx, Mordy.

Right, just bought one of these, I'll report back and tell you how my throat feels compared to other methods of ingestion. #nuffintodowithpolitics

Very cool Gawker piece about secret online drug buying website (only tangentially related to thread topic): http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

Not so secret anymore tho

it was never really "secret"!

let's not focus on the 'secret' part. i just wrote that to make the link seem more sexy.

Lets get some secret ac1d

i was checking it out yesterday, prices are kind of steep but the user ratings is nice

http://reason.com/blog/2011/06/22/barney-frank-and-ron-paul-will

the bill is going nowhere of course but i love the dialog at least

amen

it's so great that this is being introduced and makes me very hopeful about reform/decriminalization/legalization movements, but such a bummer to even hear Barney Frank admit it has no chance of passing primarily bc legislators are way behind popular opinion. it's one thing when the people want something regressive or reactionary. another when there's broad popular appeal for particular policies and a disconnect between that popular opinion and legislation.

http://www.rmcortes.com/books/jury/Jury-Illustrated.pdf

NYers, read: http://www.freedomisgreen.com/advocates-battle-clock-for-new-york-marijuana-bill-2/

This bill ("Relates to standardizing penalties associated with marijuana possession"):

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A7620-2011

This bill will accomplish what legislators originally intended when they decriminalized marijuana in 1977: keeping people out of the criminal justice system for posessing small amounts of marijuana. It will also ingnite our support to bring the fight to the NY Senate and pass the bill there next session.

Please call Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver’s office at 518-455-3791 and ask him to schedule bill A. 7620 for a floor vote before the session ends. Getting it passed this session will make it more likely it will gain movement in the Senate next session. New York residents: Please contact your Assembly member and ask them to support this bill and for them to pressure leadership (Speaker Silver) to put it up for a vote.

Also this passed recently and is awesome: http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/senate-gives-final-legislative-passage-good-samaritan-law

http://dailydish.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20154333c759f970c-800wi

huh, id be interested to see what the top drug is in the #2 or #3 countries

also im assuming that "booze" "nicotine" (or even "caffeine") arent counted as "drugs" for this? prescriptions?

it s kinda dry here. foul drug laws.

imo 1933 was more a test of legalization if anything; a hurdle for technology and rhe lack of public wreckless politics and money. though i don't really know anything about it,. Pot can be a real sensory overload and induce behavioral problems to the uninitiated imo. if people would act normal it probably never would have had the great depression ll