A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

one of my dogs LOVES the theme song - damn near any other theme song she freaks out, gets anxious and angry at the tv (30 rock theme sets her the fuck off like mary hart or some shit), but justified comes on and she stops what she's doing, chills out, and sits down in front of the tv w/ a smile on. i think she just likes the show.

haha my kid's like that with the Colbert Report theme music

i believe i once described the Justified theme as Everlast f/ Chali 2na

That story about the dog reminds me of this:

http://nastynets.com/?p=2890

just binged on s2, super dope

yeah, it was a considerable step up from s1 no doubt

btw, have never watched the shield; if i like justified, i'll like the shield?

the reversal at the end where mags took the poison was p awesome, like i saw it coming from when she got the two glasses from different spots, but then for a sec i was like maybe she did give it to raylon, v well executed

one thing that kind of continually annoys and interests me abt the show is their relance on super conventional tv tropes, like rayon is saved from death at the last second by his friends via a bullet through doyles head, but then the thing that makes it interesting and maybe more annoying is that its so knowing, the show is v meta, the tension between the naturalistic and contrived approches is incorporated on many levels in a sort of uh dizzying cycle, it becomes a primary edge and driver of the drama, like raylon wears the cowboy hat because he hated his life and wanted to build a new one, but the only two things he knew abt were this backwoods fucked up criminal bullshit and what hed seen on tv, so he modled himself after a tv lawman, only he actually is a tv lawman, my god

now he has to go back and confront his irl past, but tv stuff keeps happening to him while the supporting players roll their eyes at his strange karma

btw, have never watched the shield; if i like justified, i'll like the shield?

― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:21 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i watched an ep once and it just seemed way too ott, to like a camp extent, but could be i just need to start from the beginning

forks, watch the shield! tho goggins aside it's not very similar to justified at all... still a great show. xp

btw, have never watched the shield; if i like justified, i'll like the shield?

― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:21 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

I enjoyed a decent amount of The Shield, and it nails the ending, but there's some OTT bits as mentioned as well as loads and loads and loads of messy writing that always grated on me. They're not very similar at all though, and I know it's a cliche but The Wire always made The Shield seem like a relic.

i like this show but it reminds me of like...something i'd watch aged 10 on saturday nights rather than modern genuinely great tv. it's entertaining for the downtime between better shows but it's kinda simple and there is no real feeling in it for me, apart from loving wynona.

waht

my opinion...i had to fight my way through both seasons and only when i had absolutely nothing else to watch. that's not to say it's woeful, just there's far better stuff around. everyone is pretty clichéd as a character in this show, there's barely any sense of their inner selves at all anyway, it's just a series of clashes.

i think you are the only person who likes wynona

i would straight up bone timothy olyphant because of this show

Felt that way in Season 1 (though I loved watching it, and found the entertainment aspect refreshingly well-done), but I think certain elements of Season 2 ramped it up.

xposts

xxp she's cute?

would not bone olyphant but would wingman with him

i would straight up bone timothy olyphant because of this show

― the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:39 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

just because characters on the show are terse and guarded doesn't mean there's no feeling!

yeah i find it like entertaining, that's the exact word. but i don't have any craving to see what the overall plot is or where it's going to go cos it's actually not that intriguing. it's fairly old fashioned like this, even though there is a bigger plot each ep feels kinda self contained. and like...there are no questions you ask like "what's going to happen to raylan" or whatever...it has no tension.

wynona is great btw, tho yeah obv olyphant outdoes her!

x-post they're just not v well fleshed out as people imo

i think they are just kind of mysterious

until you get a flash of insight here or there

but totally compelling! and hot!

i am also just mad at you because apparently you think there is more feeling in mad men than justified

i am guessing local garda doesn't know anyone in real life like the ppl on justified

ie someone is projecting, not sure it's the characters here that don't have an inner life

i feel like i should let somebody from kentucky make this point but there's also a feeling for the place if that's not too obvious to say

i am thrilled that natalie zea is on a good show, but slightly less thrilled that she was more naked on 'dirty sexy money' than here.

i totally disagree with the 'relic' remark above about 'the shield' but i do think it helped set a very clear goal for lesser basic-cable shows to follow, i.e. to design interesting short-season plots and load the interest onto those so that individual episodes don't have to be quite so uniform and mechanical as the mediocre end of network dramas.

o it nails the south and southerners, but i'm not sure you can call those ppl 'ppl' really amirite lg? and yeah, if there's one thing you can say about justified it's that it 'has no tension'.

as a character i prefer ava to wynona (wynona was such a pain in the ass this season, guys) but natalie zea is ridiculously beautiful.

oh right, i don't like this show cos i am not from kentucky and cos i apparently have no inner life. sounds reasonable guys. glad we all appreciate subjectivity.

i didn't say that! i do think the show is stylized in an elmore leonard way, but that doesn't make the characters flat.

after raylan settled in during the first season as morally ambiguous but unbothered by that, it seemed that boyd was the much more interesting character. but i have to confess that i only half-watched some of the latter half of the second season, so i couldn't totally track boyd through it.

i said it, nothing i've seen here contradicts it

damn, a justified-style showdown appearing right on this very thread

please no one start shooting

no tension here

are you from kentucky? if so i have to warn you i don't recognise you as a human being.

feel like i could cut this tension with a knife

are you from kentucky?

nb i grew up in ireland, the most cosmopolitan country in the world. please don't talk to me.

this is like justified meets the commitments... on ilx

in an elevator

Wynona is >:(

She is v pretty, but >:(

LG, you are entitled to your opinion but I'm afraid I may have to shoot you regardless. Also, I am not from Kentucky.

i can't believe no one wants to have a serious argument with me about which is more feelingsy, mad men or justified.

Mad Men is very distant, everyone pretending to be chill while drinking scotches in their closet & fucking anything that moves.

Justified WAY more feelingsy. Also ppl get mad, shoot stuff. And drink out in the open. Much more productive. Raylan & the little girl made me cry like 10 times this season!

ah i find the little girl thing so cartoonish and cheesey. don reading "meditations in an emergency" is the epitome of how well mad men does the emotional stuff and it's not just directly driven by the events of that 40 minute episode. justified is just "someone died i'm mad", "someone is in danger i'm worried" etc...it's just a great police show week on week...with no overarching plot worth thinking about. yes there's tension in each individual episode but seriously don't really wonder about what will happen raylan. all that plus "oh he managed to fire a shot and kill the guy again" at star trek levels of "it probably won't work but if we can just reroute the...oh shit it worked, grand, see you next week."

did you find helen getting killed cartoonish and cheesy >:[

i guess this is impossible to argue about, especially since i don't really get mad men