"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

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t i exclaimed loudly to no one in particular, "rockin' good times!"

Hahahahahahahaha. I love that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Al-yens = crap"
"OMG. No."
"Yes."
"But, like, no."
"Yes."
"Still, though...no, eh?"
"Yes."
"NO!"
"Yes."
"No, damn you."
"Yes."
"But like, look at this here - no."
"Yes."
"Still, um, well, wouldn't it be like -"
"Yes."

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

did you highfive yourself after you wrote that girolamo?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, I just shook my own hand.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes who don't like Aliens be cool-levelheaded, don't give a fuck types, whilst dudes who do like Aliens be spaztic, easily excitable dweebs.

Reverse the roles for Alien, though.

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The portable video-camera and life sign monitor bit is great, yes. I'd forgotten about that.

I watched Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest" last night, btw!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 22 August 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes who don't like Aliens be cool-levelheaded, don't give a fuck types, whilst dudes who do like Aliens be spaztic, easily excitable dweebs.
Reverse the roles for Alien, though.

-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), August 22nd, 2004.

i take offense at that, ALIENS IS TEH BEST MOOVIE EVER YOU SATANIC HEATHENITE MARTIAN FUXOR

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

AND IA IN'T EASILY EXCITATITABALE OR WHATEVERS

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the extras on disc 2 are very good, real aliens-production-porn

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dominique Pinon as the paraplegic whose unfeeling legs keep getting injured. I don't know if I'm remembering right, but I think there was a scene where one of the other space pirates (space pirates!) sort of casually throws a knife into his leg and he doesn't notice for a minute, and when he does his reaction is like "oh man, why'd you do that!?"

Ron Perlman (aforementioned knife-wielder) should be in every movie.

The Space Pirate Captain is almost as great (and he was hands-down my favorite actor as a kid, for his performance in Robin Hood) - "She is... severely fuckable, isn't she?"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw yeah he's the bad guy from The Crow isn't he? Damn, Alien 4 had the best cast too!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Wincott is his name i believe.

Alien Resurrection is entertaining by itself, but for me it was just too jokey and tongue in cheek to work as an Alien movie.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like Alien 3 a lot, though.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Wincott is his name i believe.

His role in "Dead Man" is hilarious.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Resurrection is fine you complaining complainers

― jones (actual), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i have never seen Resurrection after the original viewing in the theaters, the day after it was released in 1997.

not sure why.

also have never seen Alien 3 all the way thru since originally seeing it twice in the theaters...

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i just watched like every special feature on the aliens double-disc as well as the long version of the movie as well as the commentary this week and it is all thanks to alex!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

You're welcome.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

god, i tried to watch two different dvd commentaries last weekend and failed each time. on "the rules of the game" peter bogdanovich talks sooo fast, like the micromachines guy, such that there is no emphasis anywhere and you can't follow it at all without getting a splitting headache. then i tried to watch a donald ritchie commentary on some kurosawa film but after about 10 minutes you can tell he was just winging it, "uh, here kurosawa is filming a house, er, houses were very common in the japan of the edo era, er."

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

see? welder, i told you.

― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking about watching that bogdanovich commentary! his citizen kane one is notoriously bad though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

That's for damned sure.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

he didn't write the "rules of the game" commentary but he reads it, at about 150 words per minute.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, objectively, peter bogdanovich seems like a decent guy, but my gut reaction is one of disgust. maybe it's the ascots?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

his ascent to 'film expert' or whatever he is was pretty sneaky

― jones (actual), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

he was always a self-proclaimed film expert! even before he was a filmmaker!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it's kinda weird that he's just reading another person's commentary tho. i don't like non-scene-specific commentaries

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

things that are good about this film: check out burke's suit jacket when they're still aboard the nostromo (the lapels are down, but the collar up!); the marine names, we used to play 'soldiers' and pretend to be them (vasquez, drake, crowe, wiersbowski, hudson, hicks, apone, frost, gorman); the sounds (the tracker's bleep, the elephant-noise alien death, the pulse rifle fire wow); everything is so well designed (ok yeah the alien architecture but the guns are soo cool, everyone wanted one as a kid, the apc, even the dropship); the hudson & hicks (alliterative-associative?) relationship; 'game over, man! game over!'; 'stop your grinnin' an' drop your linen!'; the bit where ripley's all protestant work ethic puritan abt hanging around so asks fr work, does some flashy stuff in the loader and apone, chewing his cigar, the way he says it, says 'bay 12, please.'

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

also: all the other stuff.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

bay 12 please is the best line in the movie.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

it's cool that you mention the design though--cameron says one of the main things that appealed to him about the movie was all the cool designing he'd get to do. (they had a couple of prod designers but he did a lot of the initial sketches, for the apc lander and a bunch of other stuff)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not badly written at all, btw.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i totally agree

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you're both wrong. So celebrate.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

alex i'm sorry dude but you missed the boat on this one.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i still think you should see it properly (ie letterboxed w/good sound, proper theatrical cut etc etc) before passing final judgment.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahahahaha. That's a boat I have no interest in boarding. Bon voyage!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

also on the infamous day when you watched it you started in the middle right?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

you're being a bit ripley.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw it when it came out, youngster. I've seen it in its proper entirety probably more times than I'd prefer. In retrospect, it's simply not as great a film as it is credited as being. It's not awful, but it's not especially good. It's predecessor was vastly superior.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

you know what else is cool (and has to do with burke's collars)? they decided to follow ridley scott's lead and not give everyone futuristic outfits, which i like, very few sci-fi films ever did that before alien & aliens. (james cameron talks about how he liked how they wore hawaiian shirts in the first one... "they're basically truck drivers, there's no one aroudn to tell them how to dress")

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i know i'll never win you over, alex, but i've had my enthusiasm for this film so rekindled i can't help but try!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

alex, I'd share a grenade with you. x x

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like the point about the upturned collars, though. That was a nice little flourish.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

tht kinda makes me gorman though : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

you always were an asshole, gorman

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

anytime, anywhere.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked how that dopey lieutenant(?) got bonked on the head.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"it's cool that you mention the design though--cameron says one of the main things that appealed to him about the movie was all the cool designing he'd get to do. (they had a couple of prod designers but he did a lot of the initial sketches, for the apc lander and a bunch of other stuff)"

he also designed the alien queen himself (h.r. giger wasn't involved)!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah he says he maybe regrets not involving giger but that it was kind of an ego thing for him!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

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