2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

omg snorg girl on new york times page with hillary worlds collide

here's a clip of her rant: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XjcT_sri_2E

I actually think that the debate 'friendliness' this week seemed a little calculated from both sides, and disingenous. A polite coolness would have been more sincere.

I wonder if H. isn't planning to come out swinging in the next debate, with a tactical 'moral' advantage established w/r/t this story.

well she pretty much set the tone for the next debate with that "meet me in ohio, let's debate" line.

it's gonna be so awesome when Hillary concedes and I never have to hear about either of the Clintons again

A polite coolness would have been more sincere.

"Polite coolness" is Barack Obama's middle name. (n.1)

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(n.1) Well, actually, his middle name is Hussein, but that's something we try not to talk about.

hah, i thought that as i typed it.

There just seems to be two different, competeing strategies here

Probably the case

Ugggghhhh, that YouTube clip. HRC's delivery is not going to help her.

lol @ SNL cold open sketch of the CNN debate.

Tina Fey gave an apparently sincere argument for Hillary in her SNL Weekend Update appearance.

didn't watch it, but that's the first convincing argument i've seen for Hillary.

How do you know it's convincing if you didn't see it?

Bitches get shit done is a sincere argument?

THE ARGUMENT:

http://www.hollywoodtoday.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/playing-fey.jpg

<3 <3 <3

argument even more convincing when it's wearing glasses and not making a "so yer a wize guy, eh?" expression.

i saw the snl thing

"texas and ohio step up, bitch is the new black"

o__0

She looks like she has had a stroke or two, but I still love her.

roxy i need to verify you opinion with a quick litmus test. SJP: hotty or horsey?

You are kidding me, right? This has been covered in great detail on the Lolhan thread (and surely in the gays' appletini bar as well).

Horsey for miles, though.

Anybody else smell the secret (?) disappointment in some lady friends lately as Clinton slowly fails to seal the deal? (or as Bill might put it, as we fail to seal the deal for her.)

dream vs. dream.

What's with Huccabee on SNL tonight basically zinging himself?

lols at me trying to trap you by confusing you w/ someone else on that thread.
xp

???

as for hilz, she may be on life support but def not dead. She's making her final push right now, and i'm guessing Obama's lost some momentum between the debate and this halo tarnishing hoohaw. Basically March 5th can't get here soon enough.

Cosmo, you confused me with SURMOUNTER?!?

What's with Huccabee on SNL tonight basically zinging himself?

The longer he stays in the spotlight, the better the chance he'll get his own radio/tv job next year.

as for hilz, she may be on life support but def not dead. She's making her final push right now, and i'm guessing Obama's lost some momentum between the debate and this halo tarnishing hoohaw. Basically March 5th can't get here soon enough.

AND OBAMA HAS PATRIOTISM PROBLEMS, TOO. IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG GE SEASON.

sorry, r. if it makes it better, your indignation = LOLOLOL

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obama should be able to forestall the snob/elitist toolishness with a good old 'we must vote for the best, strive to achieve the highest' speech.

he will loose a lot of points to mccain if he tries to play the common people game, i think

lose

at the moment, the only real access point to a snobamas meme is Michelle's comment, right? that she made the comment and not him makes for a pretty good firewall.

He will lose . . . to mccain

Fixed for accuracy in soothsaying.

She's his wife, it's not much of a firewall. Anyway the problem isn't snobbishness but lack of patriotism/not wearing a flag lapel pin.

nothing either obama has said (prior to the MO comment last week) is at all unpatriotic in word or intent, so the anti-patriotism crusade is bound to be a shadowplay of really insipid insinuation and spin unless either of 'em slip up again.

dude puts out Superbowl ads and watches The Wire while Hannah Montana babysits his girls. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT AMERICA?

i dont think america is going to get behind the idea that a black woman not being all 100% gung ho patriotic is her being a snob

agreed. but if it stuck on john kerry...

John Kerry's not even a likeable person in the first place.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/02/23/clinton-draws-bush-obama-comparisons/?mod=sphere_ts&mod=sphere_wd

Hillary Clinton adopted a new tactic today: Comparing the candidacy of rival Barack Obama to that of George W. Bush in his 2000 presidential run.

Criticism of the Bush Administration quickly shifted to her opponent. Without evoking Obama’s name specifically, she alluded to an argument her campaign has made for weeks that the Illinois senator relies on florid speech and is not specific enough about his plan for the presidency.

“Do you think people voting in 2000 knew what they were getting? People thought they were getting a ‘compassionate conservative,’ and it turns out he was neither. And we have lived with the consequences,” she told a crowd gathered in a Cincinnati State Technical Community College gymnasium.

“Bush promised change as a compassionate conservative and the American people got shafted and we’re going to have to make up for it now. So, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

She reminded Ohioans, who played a major part in electing Bush, that he also ran a campaign based on change. “People have talked a lot about change in this election. Well, we have lived through some of the worst change anyone could imagine over the last seven years,” she said.

a message to hillary:

hillary dude... sometimes you just get beat. sometimes your opponent is better. happens to everyone. even obama. srsly. sorry abt that. life is mad real. :(

ahahah did she actually say "the American people got shafted"?

haha this speech is mad nasty

now if she had said "the American people got shafted and we’re going to have to make up for it now. Fool me once, shame, shame on you. Fool me you cant get foold again!"

i would srsly reconsider my vote.

why is huckabee on my tv screen?

times responds http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/business/media/21askthenewsroom.html

wothwhile

Well, we have lived through some of the worst change anyone could imagine over the last seven years,” she said.

Most of it approved by you with your voting stick?

tina fey's hilary thing was brilliant, alas.