I was always wondering, how long was Hollis Mason's book supposed to be? Because his whole life story and the story of the masked heroes seems to have been pretty much covered in the 15 pages included in the comic.
-- Tuomas, Monday, May 26, 2008 9:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
lol!! true
― s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG that ornithological article is IMO the most embarrassing part...such purple prose. And that kind of thing would never, ever show up in a peer-reviewed journal.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Haha, that would be awesome! Anyway, Mason turned out to be a good writer, didn't he? The scene in the beginning of the book with his boss and the fake boobs is just as touching as he imagines it to be.
(xx-post)
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Also he gets the Kitty Geniovese thing totally wrong.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
The ornithological article is kinda weird, and doesn't really give that much of the sort of background information the other articles do, which is why I've thought there might be a deeper level to it. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into the Moore style of writing?
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I remember reading some Neil Gaiman interview where he says he sorta helped Moore write that article. They'd already become friends back then, and it turned out Moore didn't know too much about birds, so he asked Gaiman for help, and he sent Moore some books on ornithology or something. So maybe it really was just filler, since symmetry required every issue must end with an article, and he hadn't come up with anything important for that issue...
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link
hope Veidt's still a dub reggae fan
"I'm into dancehall now."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Moore has his ways with the music references, doesn't he? Has anyone else heard the recorded version of the song ("This Vicious Cabaret") V sings in V For Vendetta (it's not by Moore but some rock singer)? It's kinda disappointing.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I like it, because I am a big fan of said 'rock singer,' who is David J from Bauhaus/Love and Rockets.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Whoa.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I love in Watchmen, something like "I don't want to look like Devo."
I'd love to hear a version of the song sang by Moore himself, he as such a great voice.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
You've all heard this, right?
― chap, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
DUCKS! DUCKS!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, I've always wondered if Dreiberg's ornithological article in the later issue is supposed to be allegorical in the same sense the Black Freighter story is, or is it just supposed to illuminate his character?
-- Tuomas, Monday, May 26, 2008 9:37 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I remember at one point trying really hard to read it allegorically, but not really finding anything there. I think it's just supposed to underline that homie is really, almost sadly into birds.
No dis to orinthology folks, but like Ab said dude's prose is way over the top; makes it almost come off like a coping mechanism, he's desperate for something.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
for birds!
― s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
aren't we all
― latebloomer, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/mmpic.jpg
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Night Crotch
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
unfortunate
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't the whole point of their old costumes that they're kind of silly? hopefully they'll be smart enough to play it that way.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
which one is squirrel police?
― DG, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Looks great!
― Allen, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Silhouette's hot.
― chap, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, I think it looks like they played it that way.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Looks like they're also going to play up the "footnote" aspect of the original comics with DVD editions.
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i love the old costumes homemadeness
every time i see this thread i figure it means that watchmen movie is delayed like another year
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
The trailer hits on Friday.
― chap, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Erm, really? I thought they'd leave it for the ComicCon panel ...
― Allen, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22942
― chap, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Ahhhh ... makes sense. Thanks for the tip.
― Allen, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
this is going to be so terrible
just re-read the comics last week, the thing is unfilmable.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought the black freighter bit was the glue that held the thing together. What I got from the black freighter storyline was that that was also the storyline all the characters were following in the main story - most clearly Veidt, but also Rorschach and the others.
-- AlanSmithee, Monday, May 26, 2008 8:09 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link
so OTM, totally did not get this until very recently!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Watchmen trailer, attached to Dark Knight, premiers on Empire Online:
http://www.empireonline.com/video/watchmen/
Ballsy use of Smashing Pumpkins track from the Batman & Robin soundtrack!
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"ballsy"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, whatever.
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
visually at least, it looks great.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah nice comic book stylings. No need for Billy "laughing boy" Corgan, though.
― Neil S, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Pretty much my thought. I'm honestly amazed. Of course, the very 21st century effects/editing touches are jarring, but to be expected.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm still convinced this film is an impossible sell to people who haven't read the book (and some who have.)
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm ultimately skeptical -- still, though. (Sharp move not showing Veidt's Antarctic base, actually.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
The question is whether the director can coherently transplant the plot and its ramifications, though. Given the level of subtlety of 300 I have my doubts, but here's hoping.
― Neil S, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Dr Manhattan lookin' pretty good. Awful use of Corgan tho. the whole approach of the trailer is pretty terrible and formulaic - should'be tried to stand out more here. Cool to see the Mars glass house tho.
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
the whole approach of the trailer is pretty terrible and formulaic
A good number of the shots are pretty much from the book -- and I'm amused at how they're all "Look, Night Owl's Batman, WE KNOW"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Great looking trailer even with Corrigan's nasal mewling.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I better read the comic! I have had the TPB for a while now, but there's always some fan-boy crossover that takes priority. I think there should be a She-Hulk movie, that would be awesome.
― jel --, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
A good number of the shots are pretty much from the book
i know, it's just the whole style of the trailer itself but i was hoping for no music, no slow mo etc., maybe use actual Nixon speeches cut up and whatnot
also really sick and tired of 'human being destroyed/blown apart/smashed into bits but the last remaining recognisable part of them is their screaming mouth' sequences
― blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
link doesn't work for me :(
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Awful soundtrack to that preview.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link
don't like the obviously-all-shot-in-front-of-a-green-screen-ness of it all :(
― DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link