Irish politics discussion thread

The monarchy's clearly a wholly unjustifiable institution but this trip has been arranged for symbolic reasons and the Queen coming over is going to have much more of an impact than David Cameron would. I guess that, at a time of rising Republican activity, the visit has been calculated to show the lunatic fringe that the rest of Ireland has moved on.

That magnanimity has to be reciprocated with something close to remorse though. I haven't seen much RTE in the last couple of days but the talk in the UK has all been of how Ireland's going to respond to her being there, not how the Queen's going to respond to being in Ireland. The Garden of Remebrance and Croke Park will give her an opportunity to address some of the things that have been done in her family's name - any significance of the trip is going to depend on whether she takes that opportunity.

is it very wrong of me to give a little lol when they found that bomb this morning

jesus, i dunno would it be wise for herself to get into history/politics, tbh.

Watershed moment has already occurred there, she won't top cameron after the bloody sunday report, and the govt bears more responsibility for anything done in the past 100 years anyway

Bomb details?

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/state-visits/viable-device-found-in-bus-as-gardai-on-high-alert-for-threats-2648563.html

a lot of people like to portray the monarchy as outside of politics now but it's still fully implicated in the policy and governance of the UK imo

ya but you're a flaming nutjob iirc

well yeah

http://cockroachbritainscockroachnews.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/learn-irish-and-stop-speaking-nazi-english-and-stinklish/

implication etc yeah, but realistically how much steering can the royals do or did they do wrt the irish question?

iirc my leavin cert history twas yer gladstones etc did all the running from 1870 onwards, which is when our curriculum started anyway.

I dunno had we any dealings with ye at all before that tbh

they have no discernable influence themselves, but they are employed in a tactical/polemical fashion when on their quadi-diplomatic gladhanding trips

i mean obv we fell out with ye over land in the 1600's but we're irish, you're the neighbours, it's what we do isnt it

ya i mean it's not like there was any enmity

wtf of course there was jesus

Just no more than usual

how are your neighbours atm anyway?

sending yr landlady round 400 years later is a bit petty tho imo

they are absentee tenants atm, which is a new twist on an old favourite

triffic bunch of lads

he showed up in a taxi for five mins yesterday after not being seen for a fortnight. I asked him for further info but it wasnt forthcoming i dunno

well, i stuck my head out the window and roared 'what the fuck you doin back?' but still

can we turn this into a discussion of neighbours?

above: mark, tottenham hotspur fan, have fairly stilted discussions often, nice to know a neighbour i guess, a DECENT GUY. attractive gf.

below right: angry man who you hear roaring at wife and later praying/chanting. unpleasant, doesn't say hello.

below left: somalian man who works in dry cleaner locally, friendly.

adjacent: swedish girl and rotating cast of flatmates, she is friendly. flatmates frequently hot.

above left: the queen of england. annoying. away a lot though. flatmates frequently ugly.

lol

it's weird being here in dublin while the queen is visiting, we're staying downtown and we were told that there would be all these cops everywhere and checkpoints and blah blah blah

so far no queen at the paramount hotel breakfast bar tho

i feel yr implicit criticism of thread drift is unfair however, my neighbour situation not only parallels the uk question rather neatly, it also raises questions on the property market, encapsulates the breakdown in social order as a result of the tiger's demise, definitely ropes in the question of what to do with the lower orders, etc

nah i wasn't criticising, genuinely wanted a neighbour discussion.

x-post you're in dublin? cool...say hello to everyone i know.

cead mile failte dr3w i'm sure

Ur a bitter little man local garda, and i'm not gonna talk to yeuh if ah dint want teuh

i was serious!

well can you post some pics of yr neighbours pls, as a gesture of good faith

the swedish ones obviously

don't have any...the really beautiful one doesn't live there anymore. had to destroy the photos of her after that.

that's fair enough i suppose. I suppose.

nuthin on yerman mark's girlfriend i take it?

cmere now this is nonsense and it'll stop

How are fg doing at all at all? When are they going to hammer the public sector like needs doing? Will they sort out the banks will they?

no the girl who lived adjacent was like a film star, every hello was like winning the lottery on a sunny day. neighbour above's gf is v pretty. i'm conscious i sound like a man who drills holes in the roof/walls now. i do not do this.

x-post is tide already turned against new gov? i've seen some rumblings but obv only reading certain things...

nah there's been a lull, they got a good honeymoon period in fairness.

It's prob about time things got hairy for them though, they've a couple of shifts put in at this stage.

I was a bit disappointed not to be cavity searched on my way to work.

just cos you're public sector or for the queen thing?

just cos he is a dirty vicar and likes to be touched

GF's sister on security in Dublin yesterday:

"there were Gardai in every hole".

Pretty sure she didn't mean it like that, but lol anyway.

oh the filthy mare

heard they were working overtime alright

moonlighting

in other news, Morrissey has condemned the Queen's visit to Ireland: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0517/1224297120594.html

sure he's always falling out with queens

oh hey look morrissey thinks something

does he issue a press release or is there some sad bastard somewhere who phones up Morrissey every week and asks him about what's in the news?

It's Hot Press so it was probably closer to the latter

lol

re public sector wages etc, while we're not on the topic, i'm gonna take my p60 this week and check out getting medical card, rent support, etc, cos tbh 400 quid isnt doing much for me week to week this past few months.

Recession biting anywhere else, or do i just need to learn to budget?

is biting here...not even a fucking job to apply for let alone not get.

I'm living like a king on 188 euro a week