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Oh there are hundreds of 'see what thought did' ones...my mum used to say the bin motor one and many many others....

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Brass neck?

A riddie perhaps?

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I said brass neck, riddy and beamer upthread....

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

... brass necks, riddies and beamers all round then

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

"And beak for nose? Or neb?"

Best I ever heard was a ned reffering to his nose as his Mozam - as in Mozambique....geddit?

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me - we used Brass Neck to mean riddy or beamer when I was wee. But my Granny & older folk use it to mean having guts, as in, 'she's got a brass neck askin' for money'

Which meaning do you use?

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Brass neck = cheek rather than guts, I think.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Agreed

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Thanks - cheek was the word I was searching for, my mind went blank!

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I wanna go home and get cooried into my quilt.

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Anyone ever hear of 'Gutty's' (with the sort of glottal 't') for trainers, specifically baseball boot/converse style?

Also to 'chin' someone in relation to giving them a hard time verbally.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Gutties are a bit like saunies (sp?), no?

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

'Three O'Clock and all's well, an Irishman drowned in the Clyde'

Or, if you're behind on your chores, it's "three o'clock and not a child in the house washed!"

Janey Mack is a great Dublin expression too. As in "Janey Mack, me shirt is black, what'll I do for Sunday".

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Sannies round our way were shorthand for those skanky black gym shoes that you had to wear in primary school.

Usually there was one poor feller in the class whose family were dirt poor so he would have to wear them in the classroom too, instead of the requisite Adidas mambo or whatever.

This poor soul would then be forever labeled 'bugsy', as in 'yir family's aw bugsy, away an' wash!'

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

... in Paisley, he'd labelled a Feg of course... as in a denizen of Ferguslie Park

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

... or Feegie Park to be more accurate

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

The one wondrous thing about Paisley parlance is the addition of the phrases 'ah sais' or 'sais aye' in a random fashion, usually at the beginning or ending of sentences, my Granny at full tilt would fire those out all over the place. Especially confusing in it's proximity to the word 'aye' (for yes not 'I') as in 'sais aye, aye ah sais' etc:

Mind you I'm not entirely sure if this is still as prevalent, my mum and dad don't use it much.

Has anyone got any good french derived old scots expressions beyond 'ashet' (which is the only one that springs to mind)

My Gran could spout for hours about the origins of loads of French derived Scots words, it's always been to my lasting regret that I never taped her.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Coorie in, great....we went to a Chinese Restaurant in Bearsden or somesuch many moons ago and my sister and I thought it hilarious that it had a plaque stating it was "Coorie Inn 22"

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Feegie Park, see also Bor-heid...

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, yes, that confuses the tourists............. ha ha, tourists!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

That brings to mind the tourists scene in Train Spotting...

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

French derived Scots words

From: http://scotsyett.com/whitscots1.htm - scroll down for the English version.

Anither leid at hes gien a fouthie handsel tae the Scots is French. Aabody at kens onythin o the historie o Scotland kens about the Auld Alliance, an thare nae dout at the lang freinship atweesh the twa kingriks eikit muckle tae the Scots leid; but mony a French wird cam intae Scots, an English forbye, lang afore the Alliance. Een the wee tait o French at maist o's lernit at the scuil shaws us whaur words lik ashet, aumrie, tassie, dour, douce, disjune or fash cam frae. Rabbie Burns's collie Luath hed a Gaelic name, but his face wes bawsant: a French wird. Thare coudna be a brawer or prouder Scottish ceity nor Aiberdeen, but it hes a French motto, Bon-Accord. Our best-loe'd festival o the year, Hogmanay, hes a French name, houbeit a Frenchman o our ain days micht be haurd pit til't tae cognose the auld French word aguillaneuf in its Scots descendant. An we aa ken whit a body micht hear in the gaits an wynds o Embra no sae langsyne, wairnin thaim tae jouk out the wey o kenna-whit flung out a windae: gardyloo, frae garde à l'eau

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

This poor soul would then be forever labeled 'bugsy', as in 'yir family's aw bugsy, away an' wash!'

Poor soul pronounced to rhyme with "towel" of course

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, just now I almost said toty (sp?) instead of small to my (American) boss

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Onimo - I reckon I've got a good grasp of my local patter and I still need parts of that translated, thinking it's auld Scots and not Glesga slang?

I'd have said totey...as in tote bag...

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Ah right! A wee poke in other words?

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Just realised it's near impossible to spell 'wash' to rhyme with 'dash', 'wah-sh'?

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for that Onimo!

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Also to 'chin' someone in relation to giving them a hard time verbally.

hmm: only in the same metaphorical sense as "i'm going to kick his arse" or whatever. chinning is chinning: ie a punch in the face. "ah'm gonna fuckin' chin yee," etc.

re: what thought did. my dad, IIRC, used to come out with: "thought his feet were sticking out the bed, so got out to put them back in".

hmm. i must chin him about that.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

FWIW, I only heard 'chin' used in that context when I started hanging around with people from Ayr/Prestwick.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to remember what you cry someone with a limp - you know someone who's hirplin' about?

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I like the use of cry for call and, also, mind for remember, as in:

"He was in that film... big guy... ah cannae mind whit ye cry him."

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

At the Paisley Taxi owners association garage that my Grandpa ran for many years as a mechanic (the big archway just to the left of Gilmour St Station incase anyone is interested) there was a lanky driver who shoogled about when he walked, in an erratic fashion (maybe the beginnings of a muscular affliction, I don't know, probably just a funny walk) his nick name was 'the bust hose', schadenfraude maybe, but funny.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

i remember my uncle paul (legendary topp bloke and erstwhile alcoholic profiled here used to ring up from the frozen north-east of scotland when i was a kid. i'd answer with a shy "hello" and be greeted with "fit like, loon?" ... only he'd run it together into one unintelligible word, growled through a mist of whisky so powerful it all but melted the phone cable.

the first time he did it, i dropped the handset and ran.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

He wasn't humphy-backit too was he? (xpost)

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Just noticed "Corrie-fisted". Most people I know would use corrie haundit.

(haundit = handed)

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Hehe, nah just all rangy like.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

X-Post

Grimly, it's truly another dimension up there, I'm sure scholars could unpick the N.Eastern vocab for years and years.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I've just thought of my very favourite phrase.

My uncle came out with this one, in Paisley a 'mud' is a fish supper, but only in a sloppy, coming back from the pub half pissed fingers stinking of grease and vinegar, half of it down yer front context.

Ergo a 'mud' sheer poetry!

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Ever gied embdy a haun wi a flittin?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, cracker!

What about the use of shop for a pub? As in:

Rangers fan #1: "D'ye fancy a drink?"
Rangers fan #2: "Aye"
Rangers fan #1: "Whit aboot this pub here?"
Rangers fan #2: "Naw, don't be daft, that's a Celtic shop!"

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

... to rhyme with "slope" of course!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Heard of a Bottle Shop, but I think that's an Aussie expression.

Anyone ever read Luke Sutherland's 'Jelly Roll?'

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I was caught short in Kilwinning once trying to catch a Celtic game in a town full of Rangers Shoaps. Ah wiz in a right fankle.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

But ye just stuck the scarf in the poacket and got blootered anyway?

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Aye, we ended up winning and the local Bears were dain thir dingers.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I bet ye were up tae high doh!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, my mother uses that all the time.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

mzui, yes: the north-east dialect is joyous. there are a couple of good books on "the doric" ... although i'm sure an angry aberdonian once chinned me (ho) for mis-applying that term.

my dad's from up that way, and the remaining bits of his family are still there; my mum grew up there; one of my best friends is from turriff; and i went out with a girl from [1] keith for two years. yet there's still the odd moment when i can't understand a fucking word the crazy fuckers are saying.

last time i was up that way i found myself in a wee living room with my mum, my dad, my aunt, my uncle and my uncle's bidie-in. i was the tallest there by at least half a head. those who know me IRL will appreciate just how implausible such a situation could be.

[1] or was it "called"?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I am swithering over whether to eat another Irn Bru bar.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

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