NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011

points deduction would solve it straight away

so would chopping off his arms, but neither punishment would be proportionate

i hadn't thought about chopping off his arms.

Chewing gum and booze ban would really hit him hard

but wondered if anyone had a suggestion for decent pubs to watch football, if there are any?

King & Queen in Fitzrovia? Large screens, good beer etc. Usually a good atmosphere but usually not too busy. (Might be a bit quiet on a Saturday tho?)

i don't think a ground ban rather than a touchline ban is disproportionate for certain offences. not singling Fergie out on this.

Of course Mourinho ground banned himself for the Champions League semi.

it's not really the same as crime is it anyway, the punishment doesn't have to reflect the inevitability of the act cos the act isn't inevitable. ferguson isn't commenting on referees because he has to, or because of social forces or something.

x-post nor am I, just suggesting generally if they want to stop something in football, harsh punishments would work well.

It's not the same as crime because crime's serious, this is more like the golf club disciplining members for imbibing drinks in the window lounge not the bar lounge.

there's enough money and business interest in professional football for it to be as serious as say, breaches of ethics or employment contract in other businesses

i agree with that, but having stringent punishments isn't going to perpetuate a repetitive cycle in the same way it would/does with crime.

no absolutely, if the FA was even remotely serious about this "Respect" bullshit they wd start by making proper examples of managers

i like that we have Man U fans to good naturedly rebuff our hatred of Man U!

― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague)

ya they're a big improvement on the liverpool fans tbf

on a diff note...meeting a few irish pals who moved over here recently but are in diff parts of ldn tomorrow to watch the cup...so probably going to go central, i usually just go wherever in soho but wondered if anyone had a suggestion for decent pubs to watch football, if there are any?

The Newton Arms and Friend at Hand should suit you.

(2xp)I don't know - if you did chop his arms off he would be understandably outraged. The next time a ref didn't meet his exacting standards, he'd probably think 'fuck the FA - those cunts chopped my arms off - I'm going to say what I fucking well want'.

on that subject, rafa's press management was off limits for anyone to criticise even though he caused huge damage to the team and himself every time he tried to play the press, i don't know why hodgson's clumsy honesty was jumped on as a sudden huge fall in PR standards for the club

they should ban fergie from giving any more interviews imo

I can imagine Fergie as a disembodied Futurama style head still managing Utd in the year 3000.

Rafa was bad at press too yes but i assume he was let off because he's a foreign

ha tbf i don't think rafa was given any freebies from the press 'because he was foreign'

he caused huge damage to the team and himself every time he tried to play the press

nah this is a load of shite, was exaggerated at the time too.

and hodgson...HONESTY? "that was our best performance", "i thought we played well etc"...honest as a pirate!

Rafa was fucking hilarious at press, although I can understand how it might have been annoying for Liverpool fans.

"as always i am focussed on coaching my team and getting results" was brilliant.

Hodgson made me laugh too but in a kind of grim Beckett way

Rafa wasn't let off round here. Also he did behave as if lfc were the most important thing in the world. Roy's sense of perspective deeply undermined him I feel.

xp tbf to hodgson he started off honest, ie " the fans need to realise that we're shit at the moment but i'm working on it"

and he got crucified for telling the wrong truths

Rafa wasn't let off round here.

one thing i'll say about rafa, he wasn't let off with anything anywhere, but imo rightly so

cos he was a prick

he never told any truths! he underplayed the team massively, dalglish must love him cos the fact it's actually a way better side than hodgson claimed it was and made it look is making him look like the greatest manager of all time.

rafa at least won stuff, hodgson was a wet failure at liverpool, and his excuses and whining was ten times worse than anything rafa ever did, not least cos rafa WON THINGS.

Are there still isolated tribes of Liverpool fans who want Rafa back? Surely not now

dalglish must love him cos the fact it's actually a way better side than hodgson claimed it was and made it look is making him look like the greatest manager of all time.

the converse applies to hodgson/rafa i'd suppose

rafa at least won stuff, hodgson was a wet failure at liverpool, and his excuses and whining was ten times worse than anything rafa ever did, not least cos rafa WON THINGS.

didn't win anything with the team he handed over to hodgson

I LOVE ARGUING ABOUT RAFA

think some still support him a lot. i felt it was time for him to go when he did...but gimme him over roy any day, let's not forget that roy managed to make us even more boring and negative than rafa and houllier combined, prob deserves some sort of award for that.

x-post doesn't matter, he still built a good side and didn't try and systematically dismantle morale and expectations to cover his own ineptitude. haha...liverpool under hodgson were horrendous, rafa would never have done that badly this season.

sorry my random "haha" was x-post to "I LOVE ARGUING ABOUT RAFA"

when is rafa back in the pl btw? he's on tv every minute getting the face out there for a return

Villa

just pondering whether he would be an improvement on Big Mick

i mean in the sense that our Hannah wd be an improvement on Big Mick yes but otoh

he still built a good side and didn't try and systematically dismantle morale and expectations to cover his own ineptitude

rafa really, really, really did this. he really did. i mean if i 100% will not give in one one criticism of rafa benitez, this is the one i'd keep. he really did this. a lot.

rafa 4 chelsea or spurs, obviously???

I can imagine Fergie as a disembodied Futurama style head still managing Utd in the year 3000.

Time for a remake

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no he didn't...rafa built expectations. hodgson was going on like we were only good enough to finish 15th at best...

“I never truckled; I never took off the hat to Fashion and held it out for pennies. By God, I told them the truth.”

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"I guarantee we will finish in the top four."

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cmon which of these dudes are you gonna back? srsly now

that's not fucking lowering expectations! that's raising them!

i was more about him dismantling morale

expectations are for morons anyway

jol thought me that the hard way