What is the correct onomotopaeic spelling of the Law & Order sound?

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Oh, wait, it's not just a gavel, it's also a cell door slamming shut!

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

and monks stomping on a floor

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

seriously there are people who thought that was a gavel?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

are you deaf?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

Belzer's deaf, tho.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

BADONKADONK

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Not like a gavel, no. Unless it is a gigantic, hollow, sonorous gavel.

Jesse, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Processed gavel sound, yes.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Recorded up close but then mixed with a 'cathedral' setting.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

gavel: chopped and screwed

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

I think there's a gavel in there and then a synth line added to go with it.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

to all those who say it is a gavel, I say:

RONG RONG

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

DUNG DUNG

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, October 26, 2007 1:31 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it was originally a gavel but the 9/11 commission in league with the vatican and the rand corporation covered it up & made it a jail door

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

for the record, it's the sound of Det. Eliot Stabler slamming a child rapists' face twice into the table of the interrogation room.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^^ someone put that to a bangin' techno beat plz

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

it's the sound Yoshi's tongue makes in Super Mario World.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

BAN BAN

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

special poppage unit

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

l&o virginal intent

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Even though it is my own fault that my brain has made a link between Mariska Hargitay and Yoshi's tongue, I am still mad at you, Alex.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

good Lord people it's CHUNG CHUNG, I thought you had to answer this question correctly before they give you a driver's license in most states

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

All options here seem to suggest that it's the same sound both times! But there's a total difference in what MIDI would call, umm, velocity.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, it's got the same phrasing as "ch-ching," if instead of "ching" the root were "dung."

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

This is my compy's "you f'ed up" sound. DUNG DUNG.

I just watched one last night about a writer in some blackmail circle, was surprisingly good. Second ep I've ever seen and fuck if I need another TV show to zone out to but there it is.

Abbott, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco, sorry, but the metrical rhythm of this sound is definitely spondaic, not iambic

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

QONG QONG

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think you have that backwards elmo - "ch-ching" would be short-long/unstressed-stressed, in the theme the second beat is harder/longer = it's an iamb

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

You're right, Elmo, I'm remembering it backwards.

It's almost like a long delay/echo that's been truncated to just two sounds: DUNG-Dung (dung dung dung dung...)

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

!!!! CONFUSION

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

you're a dactyl

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

also john and tokyo rosemary are right: it's CHUNG CHUNG.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

J0hn I think Elmo's right! First one shorter but more stressed: DA-dunnng

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

Not quite. QENG QENG would be closer to "chung chung."

jaymc, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

there's absolutely nothing resembling a hard "ch-" sound in it.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order#The_card.2C_and_the_sound

This is accompanied by a tone, which has been described as a "DUN dun" or "thunk thunk" sound. It was originally developed to sound like a barred door in a jail cell slamming shut (Law). In promos for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit reruns on the USA Network, actor Dann Florek refers to the sound as the "doink doink"[9], while Richard Belzer refers to it as the sound of a judge's gavel. According to IMDb.com, it "was created by combining close to a dozen sounds, including that of a group of monks stamping on a floor."

Tomboto was right.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

i'd call it KUNG KUNG tbh

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

both beats have the same emphasis, elmo's right. it's just that first one's overwritten by the attack of the second one, which is allowed a slow decay.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.

I definitely hear the first one shorter/more staccato but haven't counted the note values so you could be right

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

ARGH I thought you were saying it was trochaic.

I need to hear this now! I feel there is a definite variation between the two sounds -- length, obviously, but also MIDI velocity! I'm sure of it!

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco: follow the link at the top of the thread?

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.audiologyillustrated.org/images/spondee.jpeg

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

If it were just length, the second one cutting off the decay/release of the first, it would sound like a stutter, and artificial. But it doesn't; it sounds more like an echo than a stutter -- the sounds are definitely shaped to be different, so they read naturally. The exact same sound triggered twice ... sounds like it.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

I don't have speakers, so I should probably be quiet for a while.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

I think remy's closest - the 2nd one is allowed to decay, which in some ears (mine for example) make it sound like a much longer note

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

see, i don't hear them as notes, but as percussive beats that reverb and decay.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

all audio for television is compressed to fuck because otherwise commercial breaks blow your speaker cones

so the first and second are exactly the same except that the compression bites off the decay of the first hit completely, making only the second hit sound sustained.

it's really not like a big fucking puzzle people. Although I am going to start telling people it's based on the I Ching for "incomplete" because it's used to remind viewers that the show is not over yet.

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

IM COMIN FOR YA BARBIE

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU... YOURE JUST JEALOUS OF HER BEAUTY!!!!

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

omg

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

I can't watch SVU at all because Meloni is permanently typecast in my mind as the camp cook in WHAS

I wish I had sound right now

El Tomboto, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

SVU is almost always this awesome.

HI DERE, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

haha that whole thing was just a setup to get meloni out of the episode!

gff, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.cookcountycourt.org/images/1.gif

Jesse, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

and the end of the clip the letter M calls the sound "chung chung"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CSkLR6mUQ

jbsquared, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 1 November 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

i just walked by another Law & Order shoot this morning and when passing the crew suppressed an almost irresistible urge to shout "DUNH DUNH!" at them.

sanskrit, Thursday, 1 November 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

haha

rrrobyn, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

"other" was robbed. none of the given options were right.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

dan m, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

it's "DUNG GUNK" obv

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

BUNKUM

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

Minus the Spanish exclamation points, this looks like a Wade-Giles transliteration of a Pinyin version already mentioned.

jaymc, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Kraftwerk to thread!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

ny times weighs in
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/arts/television/04kant.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin

mizzell, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Great is the truth and it prevails

gabbneb, Saturday, 3 November 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

need an iphone app for this

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

BIG HOOS

jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha how did I miss "FART BATH" before

al kaline trio (dan m), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

'shump shump'

akm, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)


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