Peanuts: Search and Destroy

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (801 of them)
I always thought that Marcy and Peppermint Patty were lesbians. Or at least that Marcie was (all that "sirring" clinched it). I wonder if they have been "adopted" by lesbians, the way that Kirk and Spock were "adopted" by some gays?

Peanuts = def. CLASSIC. Surprised no-one mentioned the "Snoopy Come Home" movie, where Snoopy leaves Charlie Brown for his original owner (Leila, was it?) only to come back. Even after all these years and having grown up, it still touches a nerve.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They have.

anthony, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four months pass...
The new hardcover coffee-table collection of Schulz's artwork (shot from his original art and from strips clipped out of vintage newspapers), put together by Chip Kidd, is astonishing--and has lots of hysterical strips I'd never seen before. "I'm aware of my tongue" has become a catchphrase in this household.

Schulz is also notable as one of very few daily cartoonists who gets much funnier in large doses.

Douglas, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that book is beautiful, i love the strip where lucy says they should get beethoven's birthday off from schol because 'he never supported hitler!'.

ethan, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY

Josh, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So did you see the big Snoopy yet, Josh?

David Raposa, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now, David, I have already been to the Mall of America once, briefly. Why on earth would I want to go back?

DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY

Josh, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Mall of America is the coolest place ever. There's an AMUSEMENT PARK in the middle of it, fer crissakes! That alone would be enough to win me over, but it's also got one of the best flume rides I've ever been on. Add in the bars on the 4th floor, and you've got yourself a winner. I wholeheartedly applaud shameless pandering to humanity's crasser consumer instincts when done correctly.

As far as "Peanuts" is concerned, I wouldn't have learned to read so quickly had it not been for Charles M. Schultz, so CLASSIC. Search: Linus, Peppermint Patty, Franklin (WOEFULLY UNDERUSED BROTHER), Marcie, Sally. Destroy: Snoopy's ugly-ass brother, Spike. And Violet, because she was the poor man's Lucy.

Dan Perry, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The new book is indeed fantastic. There's one page showing a completely emotionally thrashed Charlie Brown tearing himself apart near Lucy, and as that's about how I felt in ways the other day, I more than identified.

Josh, alas, is confused, poor man. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I HEART the Peanuts, but you guys already knew that, right? Let me add to the chorus and say the Chip Kidd book is OBSCENELY BEAUTIFUL, the kind of book you feel guilty for smudging with your fingerprints. (The idea that Chris Ware obsessively collected strips is so adorably geeky, isn't it? I want to marry him.)

Lately I've noticed that a lot of the Peanuts anthology books have slowly become completely unavailable, perhaps even out of print. Hopefully this and the Chip Kidd book are the prelude to the release of a Compleat Peanuts collection of books where every strip Sparky ever did is reprinted, in chronological order and in color (where applicable).

The 70's, 80's and 90's Peanuts strips are nowhere near as bad as anybody says they are. The humor is awfully dry, I admit, but it's there.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, the 90s ones are pretty terrible. Some are good in that "William Shatner performing "Rocket Man" as a spoken word tone poem" sense, but most are just terrible. (I have a slew of these strips hanging in the guest bathroom, courtesy of the previous tenant of my condo - trust me, they're BAD.)

David Raposa, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
How did I ever miss this thread? Peanuts is my life!

I'll have to stick up for the Red Baron sequences, at least the original ones in the '60s. Yes the emphasis on Snoopy and Woodstock in later years and downplaying of Charlie Brown (and Lucy, who pretty much became a nonentity except for the football episodes) was depressing. But, I still think the idea of a dog pretending to be a World War I Flying Ace (flying a SOPWITH CAMEL, yet, and somehow knowing the names of all the French towns he's flying over) is the most bizarre idea ever to hit the comics. It makes Calvin and his pseudo-Buck Rogers fantasies look positively normal.

Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think later Peanuts (say post-1970) is undervalued and over- criticised, and I found an article last week that agrees with me in the latest (I think) Comics Journal. Hooray! Proof that I'm right!

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five months pass...
The Peanuts strip jumped the shark big time when our local newspaper began to run reminders with Peanuts characters reminding everyone that it was "Only so and so shopping days until Christmas". This was back in 1975, I think.

Wasn't the message of the show A Charlie Brown Christmas about "the true meaning of Christmas" as opposed to commercialism--that is, shopping, for example? Of course, with all the Snoopy dolls, and comic strip collections and games and greeting cards and everything else, we must realize that the "true meaning" is to go out and buy!

I think the strip also began to quit emphasizing the holiday at that time as well.

But the writer (or writers) went through the same plots of Lucy yanking the football from Charlie Brown, of Charlie Brown losing ballgames, etc. even as Snoopy got lost in the desert with his brothers. The new stories didn't make sense and the old ones were worn out. Worse, one wonders if any of the newspapers actually had the guts to drop the strip in favor of newer strips.

The strip had become a narcotic. Had it not been there, perhaps more newspaper editors and readers would have demanded change. But they remained set in their ways--and too many still do. We should be thankful that a few papers have dropped the Peanuts comic strip, but that number is too few.

Joel Bader, Monday, 23 September 2002 02:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you seriously think that if editors drop reruns of "Peanuts" (which, by the way, is no longer being produced: Charles Schulz - the only man who EVER wrote or drew the strip - died a few years ago) some brilliant new comic strip is going to come along to take its place? Why not drop "Family Circus," "Marmaduke," "Nancy," or one of the other 50-year-old comic strips out there that no one reads?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 September 2002 03:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Joe Shlabotnik, natch.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 23 September 2002 05:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Justin Dillingham, who suggested dropping such comic strips as "Marmaduke", "Nancy" and "The Family Circus", might have something there. I'll go further and suggest that perhaps the funny pages should be overhauled altogether or even dropped. Such an action might just be the wake-up call needed to get better comic strips. If there aren't any new strips that appeal to a large number of readers, then the funny pages are going to be dropped anyway. Sooner or later, the readers are going to realize how lame many of the comic strips are and are going to demand that something else replace them.

Joel Bader, Monday, 23 September 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

The comics pages should be nothing but Peanuts, Doonesbury, Dilbert, The Boondocks, For Better Or For Worse, Get Fuzzy, Foxtrot, Adam and Sylvia.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 September 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

joel you're almost as bad as josh!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 September 2002 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

this just in: Nancy and Family Circus lame shocker

They are great because they are lame! They make the other ones seem funny.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:04 (twenty-three years ago)

nancy is one of the great pieces of concept art of the 20th century.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

and i haven't even gotten to the comic strip yet!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

(oooh, tough crowd.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

jess, I kept inadvertently making precisely that same substitution in my head whenever you brought up Nancy on the comics thread.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 23 September 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I vote for Dan as comic strip syndication president. Well, ok, he might want to add Calvin and Hobbes to be sure of getting my vote, but Get Fuzzy and the Boondocks = YES. (Boondocks? R in liking comic not containing any felines shocker!)

Rebecca (reb), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Is Calvin and Hobbes still being run in newspapers? Because that should certainly go in (as long as we all agree that the slash story NEVER SEES PRINT).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

You are a wise man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Everyone who likes Nancy should write to the caretaker of her legacy, Guy Gilchrist - at [email protected] - and express your support for a coffee-table Nancy book. He wants to do it but his publisher doesn't.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i suddenly got this image of "Guy Gilchrist, caretaker" as this olver twist-ian headmaster. ("MORE?!?!", etc.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)

(as long as we all agree that the slash story NEVER SEES PRINT).

Am I missing something?

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 23 September 2002 21:55 (twenty-three years ago)

If you are, you're happier that way. I'd find you a link but the thought of seeing it again even for a second is just too horrific.

(+ I thought old C&Hs were being reprinted in newspapers, but maybe I'm wrong.)

Rebecca (reb), Monday, 23 September 2002 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Such an action might just be the wake-up call needed to get better comic strips.

I sincerely doubt it...newspaper publishers don't like the comic strips in the first place because they take up valuable space that could be used on ad pages. This is why the size of the comics has been shrunken down so much over the past 15 years or so. If the current comic strips were done away with they would not be replaced. Esp. since the readership for newspapers in general has aged so much.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Right you Americans, tell me what the Snoopy dance is ACTUALLY meant to be as I only know Xanders interpretation which is possibly the best thing EVER (although maybe I am saying that because the episode is extremely funny ha ha) nevermind.

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Where's Willie Hearst when you need him?

B:Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Bring back Thatch and Bloom County! Trade FBOFW for Zippy! And how can you forget Stone Soup and Non Sequitur and Bizzaro that one w/ the gawky kid.

Gil Thorp has REALLY gone in the shitter. It's barely literate! (And no points for the Orel Hershiser guest appearance!)

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I wasn't sure how others would respond to Stone Soup (which is like old-school FBOFW, if you think about it) and Non Sequitur (which is the poor man's The Far Side), but I did consider them.

Zippy is godawful. Sorry.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I always wished there was a incident where Zippy gets stoned to death and his brains leak out of his bald head. Then, just maybe, it would be funny.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Are we talking about Zippy or Ziggy?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Does it matter?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

For some. Not necessarily for me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:07 (twenty-three years ago)

The way I see it, Zippy = newer Peanuts. Same sort of Bizzaro World logic (including the, um, "sense of humor"), but w/out the baggage (that is, switching from the precendent set by previous Peanuts strips to some sort of strange zen-like state of contemplation). Zippy can do it BECAUSE that's been the strip's MO (as far as I can remember); Peanuts can't (at least, the way Schulz did it).

The same goes for Funky Winkerbean's transmogrification into a Melrose-Place-for-geeks cesspool. And regardless of FBOFW's past, turning into a hybrid of Mary Worth and Hi & Lois didn't do a damn thing for me. There's the "funny" page, and there's the "serious" page - STAY ON THE FUNNY PAGE DAMN IT.

Example of newer Peanuts (as seen on my bathroom wall): Lucy & Charlie on the pitchers mound. Lucy sez, "Here's the roster for the other team: Francis, Horatio, Ludwig, Chandler, Francisco, etc etc etc" - all these "unique" male names. Fourth panel - close-up of Charlie, wistful expression (akin to the "rapturous contemplation" look found in every damn FBOFW strip, but, y'know, Peanuts style), and he says, "No one's named Bill anymore." Um. Five cents, please?

Add to my list: Zits, Monty (PKA Robotman), Liberty Meadows, Soup to Nutz, and Rex Morgan MD (as long as Graham Nolan is the artiste).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, Zits must be kept in the comics. Even though it's declined recently, for a while the writers had a great run going, where every strip would be insightful or funny, and often both.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the one with dogsh and catssh!! there's no jokesh really, just twee little happenshtances.

speaking of twee i don't much like the jokes in "rose is rose" but the art is AMAZING.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Zippy (the pinhead, yes, not Ziggy) is just written by a guy who has drunk a whole case of Miller Lite that has gone bad and thinks that his insights are really deep. Pass.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:56 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/mcdonnell/mcdonnell2a.jpg

Aw yeah, Mutts is nice.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 00:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Brr. Mutts always pissed me off, I freely admit. Not so much its tweeness as its...well, hard to say, but they were so relentlessly UNFUNNY, at least when I bothered to pay attention when everyone was saying how great it was. DB argues that that's the point, I realize, but I just saw these grim jokes that wouldn't pass for Highlights.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ned are you one of those chuckleheads who always assume the comics needs to be funny?

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)

You ask me, a Peanuts fan, this.

Let me specify -- when humor was attempted, it was of the cheese variety. When soppiness was attempted, it made me want to pound walls down. When prompted to appreciate how wossname knows his comic artists of the past, I reflect on how The Boondocks looks like the first honestly modern strip in years. Etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Calvin & Hobbes is the greatest strip EVAH- I want to be Hobbes when I grow up. Actually, I love them so much that I swiped one of their comic strip lines for my server's 404 page; it's the geek way of showing appreciation for their humor.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 01:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Peanuts
June 10, 1997

One panel. Linus, Charlie, and Snoopy are lounging in A Forest. Linus & Charlie lean against a tree, Snoopy against a rock.

Linus: "I hear you've decided no to go to summer camp after all..."

Charlie: "When you have a dog, you should stay home, and make your dog happy ... that's what you should do ... you should stay home..."

Snoopy: "Except for those obviously necessary short trips in to buy dog food..."

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 02:27 (twenty-three years ago)

glad those photos are preserved here for posterity, for at least as long as my imgur account holds out

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2025 20:02 (eight months ago)

Peanuts is among the most popular and influential in the history of comic strips, with 17,897 strips published in all

that number is pretty staggering

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 October 2025 20:06 (eight months ago)

i'll do it

https://i.imgur.com/qeXSpUd.jpeg

mookieproof, Friday, 3 October 2025 01:23 (eight months ago)

fuckin shermy amirite

mookieproof, Friday, 3 October 2025 01:24 (eight months ago)

I did a Peanuts readthrough a few years ago and ended up stopping after the strips for my birth year, 1978. I felt like the strip started to lose some magic a decade earlier after Woodstock was introduced, which is weird because I thought that the Snoopy and the birds strips before that were really great. And I don't mind seeing Woodstock on all the merch; it wasn't like that character was bad. Just happened to be the spot where the strip started to calcify or something, which is again funny because I'm guessing that era was when the strip had the most cultural relevance?

servoret, Friday, 3 October 2025 14:52 (eight months ago)

I think the strip had most cachet in the 60s, what with “You’re a Good Man, Charlie Brown” and the novelty hit “Snoopy vs. the Red Baron”

Mr. T's Ballroom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 October 2025 14:54 (eight months ago)

But the 70s were still good— I remember Woodstock flying Snoopy like a chopper and revealing to Snoopy he was a pilot in ‘Nam.

Mr. T's Ballroom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 October 2025 14:55 (eight months ago)

the 80s are a downturn but it got weird and good again in the 90s

fall of the house of urrsher (sic), Friday, 3 October 2025 15:45 (eight months ago)

one month passes...

Watched the Thanksgiving special. What happened to Lucy? After the opening football gag, she's gone for the rest of the show...maybe that wanted a "nicer" show and decided to leave her out on purpose?

Love how Snoopy held back the REAL food, which is pretty sly for a traditionally subservient companion - fuck you humans, I'm saving the good shit for me and Woodstock later.

But Woodstock eating a turkey...granted, a different species, but does that still count as cannibalism?

birdistheword, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 04:43 (six months ago)

Should have searched first. Apparently this is an age-old discussion.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 04:45 (six months ago)

haven't read the discussion but . . is this some more susan pevensie shit

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 05:02 (six months ago)

nah, it's the debate over whether Woodstock committed cannibalism

birdistheword, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 05:28 (six months ago)

All Woodstock is doing is eating a member of his Class, Aves. As a perching bird he would be of a different Order than a turkey. So this is no different from a human eating a pig or cow (both Class Mammalia).

Josefa, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 13:40 (six months ago)

also nobody seems to think it's weird that big fish eat smaller fish so not sure what these folks are on about

budo jeru, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 15:22 (six months ago)

Also some birds prey on other birds.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 15:26 (six months ago)

Also Woodstock is a cartoon

epistantophus, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 15:34 (six months ago)

woodstock is real buddy

map, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 15:53 (six months ago)

What happened to Lucy? After the opening football gag, she's gone for the rest of the show…

It makes sense that she wouldn’t be around for the dinner party. Peppermint Patty invited herself, Marcie, and Franklin; Sally is there because it’s her house too; Linus is there because he offered to help Charlie Brown make dinner.

But I suppose it would’ve been nice to extend an invitation to grandma’s condo to her since her/Linus’ family apparently didn’t have plans for the day.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 16:20 (six months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofzyGL8-rxc

llurk, Wednesday, 26 November 2025 22:59 (six months ago)

four months pass...

So guess what you can get for $25.

(Essentially: everything.)

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/collected-peanuts-fantagraphics-books

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 March 2026 18:14 (two months ago)

collected strips like Snoopy vs. the Red Baron, and graphic novels like Batter Up, Charlie Brown!

nb that there are no graphic novels in this bundle

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Thursday, 26 March 2026 18:43 (two months ago)

Not even Snoopy vs. Spawn?

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 March 2026 18:51 (two months ago)

So guess what you can get for $25.

(Essentially: everything.)

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/collected-peanuts-fantagraphics-books🕸

oh it’s pdfs

Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 26 March 2026 19:27 (two months ago)

xpost

I don't really do digital comics, but my Fanta Peanuts volumes stop at 1979 and this would be a good cheap way to get those generally disappointing last twenty years. Sadly, 'not available in my area'.

Saw there was also a Love and Rockets humblebundle offer recently that was just insanely good value.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 March 2026 19:31 (two months ago)

not available in UK

koogs, Thursday, 26 March 2026 20:10 (two months ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.