Maybe you should see it and then analyze it afterward.― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, May 9, 2011 3:35 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, May 9, 2011 3:35 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
chill winston
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I have "issues" w/r/t the unremitting bleakness of it but that's my own baggage - what it's doing totally works.
Yeah John Hawkes, what can you say really? There are so many incredible actors and actresses that Hollywood is just too dumb - too retrograde - to figure out how to use.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
If I wanted to read people pontificate about films they haven't seen I'd delete my Dr. Morbius greasemonkey script.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Given the amount of real life shit in, you know, real life, I'd be pretty sad if it took this movie to bum you out. Can't remember its name, but there was a great PBS (?) doc out several years ago that focused on two high school kids in rural, poor, mountain Arkansas, and the struggles they went through just to go to school each day.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Think it was "Country Boys," and it was set in dirt-poor rural Tennessee, but same idea.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/countryboys/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Shit, I mean Kentucky. Anyway, this is real-life "Winter's Bone" and available at that site online.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, May 9, 2011 11:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
lol he gets run over by a truck 2 minutes after his character gets introduced in Miami Vice
― gr8080, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
he's gonna be a lot more noticeable soon thanks to that new flick where he plays a cult leader, methinks.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
xp haha, wow, sad
― Nhex, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been saying "cut them thirty year o' timber down to nuuubs" to myself for a couple days now
― goole, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Thump was creepy as hell in this movie
― starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
When you finally see him he looks like a backup bass player in the Charlie Daniels band and somehow that makes him even scarier.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha YES
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link
come to think of it there really wasn't one character other than Ree in the movie where I looked at them and said "y'know, this person has their head on their shoulders, really upstanding individual"...
Her neighbor.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link
The ones who apparently sit around mournfully singing "Farther Along" to each other all day long??
/RAGE
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
(sorry)
Wait which ones where that? I meant the lady who took the horse in an brought her the deer meat and vegetables.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Did she sing?
Oh I think you mean the one's who were having a birthday party when they went to talk to Jessup's ex.
I'm going to read this thread later cause I can't stop thinking about this movie.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
the lady who took the horse in an brought her the deer meat and vegetables
Oh yeah, forgot about her.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
me too. I think it was because with the way the movie would go, i half expected her to turn into a villain and then forgot about her when she disappeared from the movie.
― starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
posted these comments in bits and pieces in another thread several months ago. always meant to assemble them here, so...
this is one of the best recent american genre films i've seen. winter's bone aims primarily to capture and, in a way, to honor, focusing on the details that characterize a way of life - and on the sorts of lives that might be lived within that characterization. the film's strength is largely dependent on place and texture, on careful observation more than wild imagination, and for that reason it might not appeal to viewers who demand sleeker and more aggressive thrills.
winter's bone builds its central mystery up from a good documentarian's directness and self-effacement, and i liked the relationship between that approach and the more genre-bound mystery plotting. i loved this movie for its richness, humanism and empathic integrity. i loved too its evocation of the bonds that entwine families and communities, both strong and weak, clear and subtle, the way such bonds both define and contend with our sense of moral obligation. the deliberately rough, pseudo-documentary style might seem superficially flat, but the film's off-the-cuff naturalism allows for an offhand beauty that never feels self-indulgent or showy.
we don't necessarily expect an unusual depth & subtlety of character & theme in a mystery story, or a strikingly personal relationship with place & culture, but that's what i felt i got here. i liked the things this film chooses to pay attention to and the way it pays attention to them. it contrasts the poignancy and fragility of domestic affection - the foolish bubble of innocence and joy we try to build around our families - with the fundamental threat and uncaringness of the larger world in which family exists. i liked that and feel that i don't see it explored anywhere near enough in american cinema. i liked, too, the way winter's bone balances its empathic streak with a hard-eyed look at the sacrifices that this sort of domestic maintenance can require.
― always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
this is on netflix instant! its pretty good!
― max, Saturday, 13 August 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Just finished it. Wow, i fucking loved this movie. Cried like 5 times but then I'm weak that way. Must find book.
i was also thrown by a lot of music that i think of as appalachian ("farther along", "high on a mountain") but i guess hillbilly country extends farther than i'd imagined.
No, my family all come from the South Dakota prairie and my mom and her sibs sing most of these same songs when they get together.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah gonna rewatch this in netflix. there's another on there as well by the same director, 'down to the bone'
― ☝ (am0n), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
its "funny," for a drug plague that is reportedly pretty devastating it doesnt seem like there are a lot of meth movies out there. this and breaking bad and...? or am i just not paying attention to the burgeoning meth movie scene
― max, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Loved this film, incredibly atmospheric and A+ performances all round.
>Must find book.
My wife bought me the book as a gift, inspired by my raving about the film. It's superb, totally recommend it.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked 'down to the bone', the portrayal of heroin addiction here isn't ott like in most films, so it ends up evoking more empathy than gross-out. and vera farmiga is hot.
― ☝ (am0n), Sunday, 14 August 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, there's Spun and...yeah. Meth's not a sexy or funny drug.
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 August 2011 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link
neither is crack, though
― max, Monday, 15 August 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean youd at least think thered be movies about meth _gangs_ or something
― max, Monday, 15 August 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i think i remember finding post-OD mia wallace uma thurman v attractive in pulp fiction, & am glad that vera farmiga apparently maintained being v attractive even throughout her character's addiction arc in this movie
― bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Monday, 15 August 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
this movie is a mess structurally and its depiction of poor rural arkansas is pretty ridic. C-
― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 15 August 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked this line from A.S. Hamrah: "In Winter’s Bone, people are poor and dangerous, which is to say they have dignity."
― 5ish finkel (goole), Monday, 15 August 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
it's rural Missouri, but just across the line from AR.
― leave me alone, i was only zinging (rip van wanko), Monday, 15 August 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ozarks whatever
― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 15 August 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
pfft whatever D+
― ☝ (am0n), Monday, 15 August 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
p.s. you're a mess structurally!
― ☝ (am0n), Monday, 15 August 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
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― ☝ (am0n), Monday, 15 August 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
so when she gives the hands to the sheriff she says someone dumped them on her porch. why didn't they actually do that? i mean do they just make her fish him out to fuck with her? i feel like i'm missing a plot point here.
― caek, Friday, 28 September 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
they make her fish him out to fuck with her
― Mordy, Friday, 28 September 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
they didn't give a shit about her losing her home (iirc that was why she needed the body?) - probably couldn't be bothered
feel like this could've been more visually interesting with mise-en-scene and stuff. most of the time it was kind of uninteresting visually, then there were some really incredible shots that underscored how boring the rest was.
― LaMonte, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
the scene where she's at the - idk slaughterhouse? and running across the beams after the guy: i often find myself remembering it
― Mordy, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
Debra Granik's new film at Sundance
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5309-the-daily-sundance-2018-debra-granik-s-leave-no-trace
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link