Bin Laden Dead?

Hasidic newspaper edits Hillary out of Bin Laden conference photo

LOL

great find!

LOL

Shakey, so you can see what's already been said about it: Bin Laden Dead?

Sexually suggestive?

made a joke last night where the punchline was "nom chompsky"

pretty proud of myself

we used that as a trivia team name once - "om nom nom nom chompsky"

http://www.tomscott.com/osama/#3PakAiTZWAs

no wonder he did 9/11

brilliant

Obfuscating on how intelligence was developed and on the specifics of how an operation was carried out is an essential part of covert operations. The precise process must be distorted to confuse opponents regarding how things actually played out; otherwise, the enemy learns lessons and adjusts. Ideally, the enemy learns the wrong lessons, and its adjustments wind up further weakening it. Operational disinformation is the final, critical phase of covert operations. So as interesting as it is to speculate on just how the United States located bin Laden and on exactly how the attack took place, it is ultimately not a fruitful discussion. Moreover, it does not focus on the truly important question, namely, the future of U.S.-Pakistani relations.

from the Stratfor elves, i.e. uncontroversially OTM

Still, it's hard not to wonder exactly what happened. It's like every FPS ever made has been subconsciously gesturing towards that moment. We can all imagine it in our heads. The tense briefing, "going in barefoot", the midnight chopper, covering fire, moving up the stairwell. And then Bin Laden, 30 feet tall, laughing demonically and throwing lightning bolts at you.

Fortunately, there were plenty of crates for the SEALs to take cover behind.

Also the downed chopper setpiece has to go down as one of the great unexpected wrinkles in a final boss battle.

Are there any FPSs that make any great use of "don't kill the innocents?" That is what keep coming back to me when I try to imagine this - that in and amongst the killing, exploding, hard drive snatching, and body IDing, there are NINE KIDS running around. You sort of have to believe that if any of those kids gets hurt it's an instant MISSION FAIL - SNAAAAAAAAAAAKE

http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/nes100/hogansalley.png

What's that in her hand? An IED?

L-R: Village People cop, Lou Reed, Sarah Palin.

Don't understand all the handwringing here re: relations with Pakistan. If significant (that is, power holding or power swaying) elements of Pakistan's gov were housing and aiding Bin Laden, that seems almost like a deal-breaker right there, a pretty serious betrayal of trust. And if the more US-aligned elements in Pakistan's gov - or parallel govs - were in the dark on this, that, too, is not a ringing endorsement of their abilities or competence. Not sure what Pakistan can offer us that is not in their own best interests as well. I suppose the question is if it's worth the gamble of supporting a government on the brink of chaos for the sake of forestalling said chaos, and even then only maybe. At least we're good buds with India, which puts us in a relatively unique position of strength unlike that of most intractable global hot spots we're stuck dealing with.

Not sure what Pakistan can offer us that is not in their own best interests as well

Maybe the avoidance of some kind of (possibly nuclear) conflict with "best buds", India? Or reducing the possibility of another one of their rogue scientists roaming the earth handing out nuclear goodies to terrorists and other baddies?

america essentially chose pakistan 50 years ago as the large country in that part of asia to support, because they felt india was too sympathetic towards the soviet union. they've been one of the largest, if not largest outside israel, recipients of US aid for years. the reasons for this are fairly clear, US desired a bulwark against communism, an ally in the region, for pakistan to be succesful and prosper. this seems to have failed. though the very real and pretty fucking scary idea of pakistan becoming a failed state might dissuade one from just saying "fuck pakistan" and withdrawing economic support.

US desired a bulwark against communism, an ally in the region, for pakistan to be succesful and prosper. this seems to have failed.

this didn't fail. Pakistan's proxies in Afghanistan helped the Afghan war (among other things) cripple Soviets. US simply decided that a military dictatorship + islamic extremism was preferable to the the spectre of communism. (genius decision in hindsight, obviously)

ie they're "our sonsofbitches"

pissing out of the tent, etc.

I count "nuclear war with India" as not in Pakistan's best interests. And sure, funding the country as a bulwark against ... stuff makes sense, and a collapsed Pakistan would be very bad. But certainly any nation that at least in some way harbored Bin Laden for years, and certainly has been directly funding our adversaries in Afghanistan. can't necessarily be trusted to do whatever it is we want them to do with billions of aid, either due to incompetence or outright malevolence. No?

Hitchens spanks Chomsky:

http://www.slate.com/id/2293541/

come on man did you have to give me that mental image

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/24466/VWuwQ.jpg

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/comic_news/news/?a=36895&t=iMarveli_and_iDCi_Heroes_Watch_Osama_bin_Laden_Raid

Kinda half assed, especially on spidey.

Uh, and Batman!

Note the laptop screens

lmao @ biden as the rumpled flash tho

Wonder Hillary has one sleeve on, one sleeve off.

But I get it: It's the President and his national security advisors depicted as comic book heroes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110509/us_yblog_thelookout/local-pastor-made-up-elaborate-navy-seal-tale

http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2011/05/sex-toy-maker-thanks-seals-killing-bin-laden-fleshlight

The photoshop thing is reaching some mainstream media too now: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/second-hasidic-newspaper-drops-hillary-clinton-and-audrey-tomason/2011/05/10/AFEpSMhG_blog.html (Colbert clip in article as well)

http://ichlugebullets.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif

Has to be one of the laziest photoshops ive ever seen. Why is Batman's suit dissolving into a button-up dress shirt?

btw Mo Dowd loved the hit

As predicted, nobody is reading my post.

It appears that there have been numerous meetings over the last 3 weeks between the Pakistan military (who seem to have been providing OBL safe-harbor near to their "West Point") and CIA culminating in a deal with the ISI providing the info and green light to take out OBL in exchange for no more illegal drone/special ops activity. Not quite a conspiracy theory, but yet a very different picture than what the White House is painting.

― it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 5:46 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/13-May-2011/Drone-kills-eight-in-NWA

can't believe nobody read your post

Shasta's source also told him the Mets would be the worst team in the NL this year

Hitchens spanks Chomsky:

http://www.slate.com/id/2293541/

― thirdalternative, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:49 PM (3 days ago)

great opening sentence! stay classy, hitch!

lol morbs

92-year-old Nuremberg prosecutor, via Greenwald (I'll listen to the CBC interview later:

I'm afraid most of the lessons of Nuremberg have passed, unfortunately. The world has accepted them, but the U.S. seems reluctant to do so. The principal lesson we learned from Nuremberg is that a war of aggression -- that means, a war in violation of international law, in violation of the UN charter, and not in self-defense -- is the supreme international crime, because all the other crimes happen in war. And every leader who is responsible for planning and perpetrating that crime should be held to account in a court of law, and the law applies equally to everyone.

These lessons were hailed throughout the world -- I hailed them, I was involved in them -- and it saddens me to no end when Americans are asked: why don't you support the Nuremberg principles on aggression? And the response is: Nuremberg? That was then, this is now. Forget it.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/05/13/nuremberg/index.html

also, nice John Kerry quote: "It's time to shut up." What a long way he's come from 1972.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/05/ap-raiders-knew-mission-a-one-shot-deal-051711/

404

Just add the / at the end like this.

so did the helicopter have owl wings?

The principal lesson we learned from Nuremberg is that a war of aggression -- that means, a war in violation of international law, in violation of the UN charter, and not in self-defense -- is the supreme international crime, because all the other crimes happen in war. And every leader who is responsible for planning and perpetrating that crime should be held to account in a court of law, and the law applies equally to everyone.

he's exactly right that all the other crimes happen in war. they happen in UN-sanctioned wars too. (im not clicking on greenwald but it's not immediately clear how the quote is relevant to the hit on osama. was it not in self-defense?) the US didn't fight germany for reasons of self-defence, though, did it? and the system of 'international law', such as it was, failed. courts of law have to derive their authority from somewhere.

interviewed ben ferencz the other day. dude is just FASCINATING no joke

the US didn't fight germany for reasons of self-defence, though, did it?

The USA declared war on Japan only after the attack on Pearl Harbor and a declaration of war upon the USA by Japan. Because of the Axis treaty, Germany and Italy declared war on the USA. After these declarations were made the USA declared war on Germany and Italy. This train of events establishes a clear self-defense situation in the USA's war against all three Axis powers.