Freaks & Geeks

Come to think of it, that happens a lot on this show.

boo, hiss!

Something is wrong with me.

Lindsay Weir is Andy Garcia's daughter; I am blur in green jacket in crowd scene.

if lindsey weir became real i would date her no matter what

she is tight

I have a friend who says she can't watch Freeks and Geeks because her fiance is unhealthily obsessed with Lindsay Weir.

I would date her after she went to college and got a little more relationship experience, maybe. But she probably has a rule against drummers.

I would rescue her from those deadheads she disappeared with in the last episode

BONAROOOOOO

That's one of the most authentic high-school things about her -- how she probably won't have friends who are particularly like her until college.

Possibly also some part of why the show's audience was small but fervent -- there's a huge identification factor for the subset of people who grow up kinda splitting the difference between freaks/geeks, navigating a smart-but-uncool group on one side and a cool-but-losery slacker set on the other. (I get the feeling more kids do that kind of navigating than we'd imagine, though.)

yeah i identify pretty strongly with lindsey

also want to marry her

I was definitely closer to Sam than Lindsey.

I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.

Also how did lindsey get so much less hot when she was in brokeback mtn and ER :(

blonde does not suit her its true

I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.

yeah this is def. true for me too - by senior year I was growin my hair long and discovering the joys of beer

navigating a smart-but-uncool group on one side and a cool-but-losery slacker set on the other

Word.

I was a lot more like Kim personality-wise in high school, but I went through a lot of the same situations as Lindsay. My brother is so much like Daniel Desario it's scary (he even looks like him!).

Don't they even imply that Lindsay was like Sam in early school, w/ the whole mathletes thing?

I dunno, I never envisioned Sam, Bill, and Neil as particularly good students (like most of the real geeks I knew)--either Paul or Judd point this out in the DVD notes. Being an academic nerd and a cultural nerd (if you will) are two very different things.

Apart from maybe Neil, though, Sam seems slightly less likely to have a big split from his early-HS "dork" friends -- whatever he winds up doing, you kinda imagine Bill heading there too, right? Which seems like a pretty accurate split between boys and girls around those ages: you don't as much see guys having splits like the Lindsay/Millie one. (If only because ... Sam's friends aren't dorks because they're "good" kids or rule-followers or prim -- they're just, like, big goofy dorks.)

(Ha, there's kind of a level where you could half-imagine Sam turning into a Desario, Bill turning into a Nick, and Neil turning into a Ken.)

I had a bit of a Lindsay moment when I went from hanging with nerdy science kids to ELMO'S DRAMA CLIQUE OF SEXXXXXXINESS. Also one of my nerd friends described me as a slacker like it was an accepted fact u_u

see, thought lindsay w. was always kind of annoying

not as annoying as angela chase, though.

millie's hot!

Angela Chase's teenage annoyingness is the greatest thing about that show, though, especially if you watch it now. Her sister puts on her shirt for Halloween and comes out all like "OMG you don't understand, don't you ever feel like everyone's, like, ice skating, and you're the only one who can see that the ice is ... like ... cracking" (*) and it's the BEST THING EVER

(*) = not a quote, just a made-up "deep" Angela Chase metaphor

who the hell is angela chase?

My So-Called Life, Claire Danes

ugh that show

(I don't know if the writers intended Angela voice-over to actually scan as deep, but it's so fucking hilariously teenagey and kinda stoned-sounding that you get the sense they're winking at you a little: "People are always saying you should be yourself, like yourself is this definite thing ... like a toaster.")

(Haha also her initial description of why Jordan Catalano is hot is actually a description of how Jordan Catalano is stoned all the time, with the salient points being that she likes the way he leans on things -- "he's, like, a good leaner" -- and that he's always closing his eyes "like it hurts to look at things." He is then pictured several times over the next few episodes putting Visine in before class.)

more like it hurts to look at Claire Danes amirite

<i>I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.</i>

UGO: How much insight did Linda Cardellini give into the writing for her character?

PAUL FEIG: Linda was so much that girl that she didn't have to do much; she just inspired. When I first wrote the pilot, I based a lot of the characters on people I knew. But the Linda character was one I just completely invented. I didn't know a girl like that, although I'd seen them around. So she was like a total invention, and was somewhat like me in my 30s. And I kind of had a picture in my head of what she should look like, and when Linda walked in it was like, "Oh my god, that's the girl." It was like this weird moment where she popped out of my head. So she was always so great to write for, and so willing to go with us on different stuff. And she'd let us know if something didn't ring true.

UGO: Was she the sister you wish you had?

PAUL FEIG: Yeah, totally, because I was an only child.

i watched this for like 12 hours straight at ATP

the guidance counselor kills me... when he breaks out the acoustic guitar to play alice cooper - eighteen wtf

hey some of those chords are really hard

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