Bin Laden Dead?

"We have no independent confirmation of Osama bin Laden being there or dying there except what we got from the daughter," said the official, a member of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency.

The official said that based on interviews with the daughter and others in the house Pakistani authorities now believe that bin Laden had been living in the Abbottabad compound for "some months.

like, come on yall

airs next week:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/fighting-for-bin-laden/

i must say i hadn't thought of this argument

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/05/public-records-should-bepublic

really? that was my first reaction tbh (my second was "no fucking way I want to see it tho)

folks

"Given her subsequent career path, I guess she didn't stick around for his talk."

i think he kinda drives people to mercenary work.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/05/02/story-of-the-mexican-anchor-baby-navy-seals-that-captured-osama-bin-laden/

dunno how verified that is

Chomsky? you mean, like Chumbawamba?

xxp

"captured"

in Arizona, "captured" and "shot" mean the same thing

i bet more american college kids know who chomsky is than chumbawamba at this point

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svivar9087
May 2nd, 2011 on 8:04 pm

As a Latina all I can say is….in your face player haters.

Rubén Mejía

I'm hearing ppl say "captured" all the time this week; I always thought you had to have a heartbeat when they put their hands on you.

btw one of my MSNBC-loving F'book friends suggested that Obama "do the same" to Palin. I'd have told him to cool it but he's the one driving me to the Nixon Library in July.

Well if thats the same wide brush you use to paint all us "Bam lovers", then I think we have identified a large part of the problem here.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-seals-mexican-immigrant/

Some have questioned the authenticity of El Universal's reporting. As of now, the outlet has not posted an update to its story. We have contacted Notimex/El Universal for comment.

When contacted by Think Progress, a representative from the radio station that Martín Mejía reportedly called into -- 97.9 La Raza -- confirmed that a person identifying himself as the father of a Navy SEAL who was involved in the attack against Osama Bin Laden appeared on the radio station. The representative stated that his radio station checked the veracity of Mr. Mejía's story and "everything was okay." They are no longer releasing a recording of the interview at this point.

"Chomsky? you mean, like Chumbawamba?"

yeah, i think he depresses people so much when he talks about the futility of the world situation so people go fuggit i'm gonna go to africa and fuck shit up and make some money we're all doomed anyway.

I GET KNOCKED DOWN

As incredibly valuable and mind-bogglingly informative as his talks/interviews/books are, he usually ends with some defeatist line about how things are only gonna get worse. It's kind of infuriating, actually, and an insult to the activists who get inspiration from him.

Also I'll think, "What the hell? Then why waste all that time researching and lecturing? Just go to a strip club or something."

Here is a VERY graphic shot of a dead body from the compound if you're into that sort of thing:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/unidentified-body-man-seen-raid-u-navy-seal-photo-195008698.html

he usually ends with some defeatist line about how things are only gonna get worse.

But I've been aware of him for 25 years, and he's right so far.

ie defeatism vs realism

As incredibly valuable and mind-bogglingly informative as his talks/interviews/books are, he usually ends with some defeatist line about how things are only gonna get worse. It's kind of infuriating, actually, and an insult to the activists who get inspiration from him.

Also I'll think, "What the hell? Then why waste all that time researching and lecturing? Just go to a strip club or something."

I dunno, he seems kind of big on telling the truth to people, afaik? If he doesn't see anything getting better anytime soon maybe he has enough faith in the people listening to him to tell them so and let them deal with it as they wish- there's not much defeatist in that imo.

Maybe if he'd consistently ended on a note that, say, inspired collective action, things wouldn't have gotten (as) worse.

xxp to Morbs

girl i recently friended just posted status update

"Now they won't even release photos of the AT SEA BURIAL?? If you still believe this shit, you are an IDIOT."

*unfriended*

I dunno, he seems kind of big on telling the truth to people, afaik? If he doesn't see anything getting better anytime soon maybe he has enough faith in the people listening to him to tell them so and let them deal with it as they wish- there's not much defeatist in that imo.

That's the funny thing; I believe he definitely has faith in people, or else he wouldn't do what he does. tbf, I might be blowing his "defeatism" out of proportion. But on the occasions I've seen it, it's depressing/annoying.

What would photos of an at sea burial look like?

The sea?

if bin laden was really alive he would've been on al jazeera on monday waving around a copy of the ny times

girl i recently friended just posted status update

"Now they won't even release photos of the AT SEA BURIAL?? If you still believe this shit, you are an IDIOT."

*unfriended*

Wouldn't the easiest thing to do with these kinds of people is point out that if mind control was so simple and 'obvious' that they can't even be sure they could trust their own memories and that therefore they're likely government plants? Then they can go away worrying about themselves and cry their life away in a corner.

maybe he's like keyser soze, he wants you to believe he's dead (xpost)

if bin laden was really alive he would've been on al jazeera on monday waving around a copy of the ny times

OBAMA DEFEATS BIN LADEN

rumors of my human shield greatly exaggerated etc

lolll

This is disturbing: http://jezebel.com/#!5798655/elisabeth-hasselbecks-osama-bin-laden-childrens-poem

is that any more disturbing than "ring around the rosey" or "London Bridge is falling down"

I stopped reading at "elisabeth hasselbeck" and you are still otm

xp

Osama Bin Laden was a very bad guy
He hurt many people, don't ask me why
We shot him in the head and now he is dead
Now close your eyes and go to bed
Or Navy Seals will storm your bedroom too

There once was a man called Osama...

Eh, I give up.

there once was a man called bin laden
who thought that he'd hidden but haddn'
a team picked for the purpose
breached his habeus corpus
now we're all either gladden' or madden'

somehow it feels
like writing poems about death
is too macabre

a+

and yeath
here we abre

to both o ye

Yeah but Darragh's is imagined in the dulcet tones of the Craggy Islanders, and that works - more so if yr man is saying bin Laden in a big bad CAAAAAAAAARK accent.

o how dare you i sound like a smooth patrick stewart

things I learned from the Bin Laden Dead? thread that I never wanted to know:

- Patrick Stewart is shaved

there once was a man called osama
who wanted to stay out of harm; a
compound erected
can't go undetected -
no matter, he wasn’t a charmer.

- people are afraid to write dirty limericks about bin Laden

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