Bin Laden Dead?

seems pretty grody to me, for no real benefit.

"At the United Nations, questions arose about the killing. The organization’s senior human rights official, Navi Pillay, called for more details. While noting that Bin Laden was a dangerous man, she said any operation against him should have been done legally".

The unsolvable dilemma of laws of war and international justice, in a nutshell.

Westphalia, so much to answer for

I appreciate the cautious definition of Bin Laden as a "dangerous man".

i think panetta said the photos will come out eventually, which seems right, whether or not the white house officially releases them. this is one of those things i think--how can something that so many people know exists, and is wanted to be seen by so many people, stay hidden?

max there are a lot of famous vaginas out there too

or you think he’s wearing a suicide vest

It just occurred to me that, were I bin Laden, I would have booby-trapped the house.

The Day the Clown Cried

ha I was about to say "you make it sound like Kim Kardashian's sex tape"

ok lol

Yeah, we've had camera phones for the better part of a decade, something will leak.

how can something that so many people know exists, and is wanted to be seen by so many people, stay hidden?

it has a mansion built with 7-foot privacy walls and burns all its trash

vaginas want to be free

brb, registering vaginaleaks.com

oh wait, no

Wikiginas? CuntiLeaks? SnatchSnaps?

This thread is usddenly making me the mental equivalent of wall-eyed to vision.

"...Kim Kardashian's sex tape."

"...something will leak."

Wha?

"At the United Nations, questions arose about the killing. The organization’s senior human rights official, Navi Pillay, called for more details. While noting that Bin Laden was a dangerous man, she said any operation against him should have been done legally".

The unsolvable dilemma of laws of war and international justice, in a nutshell.

― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:20 PM (6 minutes ago)

well there's not really a 'dilemma' afaik wrt killing someone who's unarmed and surrendering, or someone who's been captured - it's illegal. the explanation most people are giving is that it was in the 'heat of the moment' or something, which to me seems plausible and since we're never going to actually know for sure what went down, i'm fine with that, whatever

i want to know more about this woman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Tomason

the "director for counterterrorism" eh? and she couldnt even get a seat at the table???

i had never heard of her before either.

not a real helpful wiki there

lol @ photo

like not only is the wiki empty, the sole photo is one we have all already seen

im saying

where are the conspiracy heads now

WAS THIS THE WOMAN WHO MADE THE SECRET DEAL WITH PAKISTAN

the explanation most people are giving is that it was in the 'heat of the moment'

now i'm imagining bin laden singing "i never meant to be so bad to you"

white house should just be hardass. press conference should have been: "he's dead. we killed him. grab some donuts on the way out. later, dudes."

that's what john wayne would have done.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110503/ts_dailybeast/13869_audreytomasonwhoisthemysterywomaninthesituationroomwithobama

now i'm imagining bin laden singing "i never meant to be so bad to you"

― buzza, Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:35 PM (36 seconds ago)

i'd probably cap him in this case too tbh

i'm guessing osama's been removed from the "living person" wiki category...... or has he???

"yes, about osama being unarmed..."

"look, we killed him in cold blood and if there were any way to bring him back to life we would have done so and then killed him again and then brought him back to life again and then killed him again and we would have kept doing that for, like, a year. any more questions?"

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22audrey+tomason%22+site:whitehouse.gov&hl=en&prmd=ivnso&filter=0

haha, uh...

i mean "legalities"? pish posh. bit late for legal behaviour over there.

it's unethical to raise the dead solely for the purpose of ending their lives once again

"well there's not really a 'dilemma' afaik wrt killing someone who's unarmed and surrendering, or someone who's been captured - it's illegal".

The dilemma is between what is prescribed by the law and, for lack of a better expression, political and historical reality (or perceived necessities).
It is obvious that the American one was a de facto assassination squad, but at the same time it is difficult to imagine Obama's administration acting differently.

i don't actually spell behavior like that. don't know what i was thinking.

truth outs, scott's a britisher

it has a mansion built with 7-foot privacy walls and burns all its trash

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v63oTveUEGI/SQhVLu6HJAI/AAAAAAAAHGQ/uWaZs_jz2-0/s400/lotionfun.JPG

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22audrey+tomason%22+site:whitehouse.gov&hl=en&prmd=ivnso&filter=0

haha, uh...

― goole, Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

RIGHT!?

an official said she worked with the National Security Council, a White House agency closely involved with the intelligence that led to bin Laden. The official intimated that the White House generally doesn't discuss personnel at any of the government's covert or intelligence agencies. Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the NSC, confirmed she worked with the agency. When asked why she had never been identified or mentioned before, Vietor responded "Well, we've never killed bin Laden before."

can't we all just get along and kill bin laden?

"Is that a story [the White House] wants to put out there in public? The fact that we can see her face could potentially jeopardize her career."

This strikes me as unlikely--they took the time to obscure a classified picture obliquely visible on the desk of the conference room, somebody wouldn't say "Oh, we should probably 'shop Audrey out of this"?

Audrey Tomason worked as Americorps*VISTA and Associate at ACCION International after Tufts. She is attending the Kennedy School's master's in public policy program and is scheduled to graduate in 2003.

SHE IS FROM THE FUTURE

skills: throwing knives, seduction, electronic entry, slavic languages

audrey tuomason

"how do you get on google?"

I knew there were Masons in Bam's WH.

somebody wouldn't say "Oh, we should probably 'shop Audrey out of this"?

if her name is even audrey

oh shi

here is a clip of her introducing Noam Chomsky (!) as an undergrad at Tufts in 1997 (if its the same person), starts around 2:30 into it

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ACrit&showFullAbstract=1