Bin Laden Dead?

waging a pointless war is, yeah

http://i.imgur.com/ZiaQb.png

Don't know if anyone has posted this, but the famed MLK quote of yesterday is 2/3 accurate:

http://www.salon.com/news/osama_bin_laden/index.html?story=/opinion/walsh/politics/2011/05/03/obama_osama_mlk

yea it was briefly discussed upthread. surprisingly most of my friends caught it before I did this morning on FB.

man's capacity for embracing compassionate statements surpassed only by capacity for engaging in joyless pedantry

A local radio station just played "Right Here, Right Now," which should underscore the lager louts outside the White House.

well in this case the pedantry was pretty warranted, nothing to me is more annoying than people putting words in the mouth of dead figureheads.

also supposedly the Mark Twain quote was fake too.

whoever plays Jesus Jones is clearly in league with the enemy

A local radio station just played "Right Here, Right Now," which should underscore the lager louts outside the White House.

― more horses after the main event (Eazy), Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:44 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

love this song. i bet the SEALS were listening to it too

WWJJD

i assumed we were talking abt FBS

lol

heres hoping whiney makes fun of me for this one

Charlie Savage on the case as usual, this time regarding torture.

At a press conference in Kabul, special envoy Staffan de Mistura called particular attention to the increased number of casualties among women and children.

But he said numbers only tell so much of the story. "The figures indicate that the international forces have made an effort to reduce civilian casualties," he said. "However let's not forget that the whole purpose of the engagement in Afghanistan is the protection of civilians.

"That's why we understand and we feel all together that while we are sending out one message to the Taliban and to the anti-government forces, we are also requesting and reminding the internationals that one victim, one civilian victim, is one too many."

special envoy Staffan de Mistura otm

wish ppl would err on the side of being big softies for whom one pointless death is an outrage instead of realistic men of the world

when if not now does a death cease to be "pointless"

"Nothing to me is more annoying than people putting words in the mouth of dead figureheads." -Kurt Vonnegut

haha!

The Taliban were/are pretty much the most indiscriminately assholish people on the planet, so I have no deep grief in seeing them marginalized or hopefully even swept away by whatever the hell the end game in Afghanistan ends up being. I remember signing petitions by school womens' groups in 1998/1999ish urging the US government to act, by at least boycotting trade and stopping payoffs, in order to diminish their influence.

These were the guys who had weekly beheadings in former soccer fields for "offenses against Islam" and thought that lining up a bunch of gay guys against a brick wall and then driving a tank over the other side of the wall were great ideas. Seriously, fuck those guys.

one of the worst things about the Taliban fiasco in 01 is that they caused Americans to embrace the Northern Alliance as if they weren't also piece of shit warlords and thugs too.

For some reason every time I see "Northern Alliance" I get confused and think it has something to do with Ireland.

The Taliban are a high quality enemy, to be sure.

I remember thinking in 2001 that fighting with the Northern Alliance made it sound like we were in Star Wars

God I woulda killed to hear Dubya tell someone they were part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor

I hope they don't end up showing this picture they keep talking about.

me too. I really have no desire to see it, it's grotesque

and it's not like it's gonna allay any of the conspiracy theorist's doubts

"SHOPPED! LOOK, THOSE BULLET HOLES IN HIS LEFT CHEEK LOOK TOTALLY DIGITAL, FUCK THE GOV'T"

if they release the photo i hope they do it during my shift

can't stand "Right Here, Right Now"

nothing to me is more annoying than people putting words in the mouth of dead figureheads.

yeah esp when we know King would've been all WAY TO GO, TRIAL-AVERSE DOGGS

It seems likely that nobody "put words" in MLK's mouth, it just got conflated with the first sentence in endless pasting. But you have your fun demonizing due-process monkeys.

i'm glad we've exhausted all the other related topics that we can now fight about whether the mlb misattribution on fb status messages was intentional or not.

mlk*

well, it is the end of history

http://people.missouristate.edu/WilliamBurling/612%20Drama/Adorno%20Endgame.pdf

yea I've seen the error of my ways, Morbs, I'm going ahead and quoting Cat Stevens as saying "Peace is groovy dude", I mean he didn't say it or nothin but I know he feels that way

Nothing to gain from releasing the photo beyond a new image nutters (western or otherwise) will affix to placards at protests. The best proof of Bin Laden's death will be the absence of Bin Laden.

considering I saw a few images with the first non-mlk statement attached next to his portrait, I'm pretty sure people were in fact putting words in his mouth, although not in a matter to intentionally deceive.

matter? manner. it's getting late for me.

History is excluded, because it itself has dehydrated the power of consciousness to think history, the power of remembrance.

xpost yea, all it was was some goofball fuckign up the quote at some point in time, someone copying, then re-copying, and so on, and so forth....

"Real Real Real" >>>>> "Right Here Right Now"

"Real Real Real (Osama's Dead)"

"Osama's Dead" -- bauhaus

I remember thinking in 2001 that fighting with the Northern Alliance made it sound like we were in Star Wars

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, May 3, 2011 9:40 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^^exactly my thoughts as well

when if not now does a death cease to be "pointless"

I was referring to the death of civilians, not the death of Osama bin Laden

if i never hear one more person say "so there was collateral damage, it's their fault for not fleeing the country/not overthrowing their government" I'll be a happy man

gonna go out on a limb here and say that you will not be a happy man

thread got real confusing until i realized you guys WEREN'T referring to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZoOiWoaFtg

special envoy Staffan de Mistura otm

wish ppl would err on the side of being big softies for whom one pointless death is an outrage instead of realistic men of the world

are you calling my wife a realistic man of the world

cheerin-OBL disaster

Let's not fallout about it.