Bin Laden Dead?

i am arguing with steve shasta i think (?)

The strike team at Abbottabad retrieved 10 hard drives, five computers and more than 100 storage devices: disks, DVDs, and thumb drives, a U.S. intelligence official said.

In addition, the team retrieved written material, not further described, but in the past, U.S. forces have retrieved notebooks and address books that were helpful in locating other terrorists. The U.S. intelligence community is willingly releasing this materal, hoping that those who believe their names and personal data are on those devices will go to ground, thus reducing even further the terrorist threat.

however the media treated this (i dont have cable news) based entirely on that quote max posted it didnt sound like dude was describing it like a michael bay film to me but maybe i missed some important quotes there

The strike team at Abbottabad retrieved 10 hard drives, five computers and more than 100 storage devices: disks, DVDs, and thumb drives, a U.S. intelligence official said.

turns out the terrorists are kickass spider solitair players

bin Laden loved him some "Space Channel 5"

presumably they were smuggling in hard drives loaded with new tv shows, what with their compound not having television or internet access.

Osama actually was a big Battlestar Galactica fan

Imagine bin Laden being all "the new season of 'Dexter'? PRAISE ALLAH!"

He would like that one.

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fave hard drive joke so far was that it was "said to contain unfinished raps and FlipCam videos of the terrorist leader skateboarding around his compound"

actually I can't decide which would be more incongruous; bin Laden digging "SP5" or bin Laden digging "Samba de Amigo"

vids he planned to upload to worldstarhiphop

Hawkins: What's he saying?
Leary: Something about your mother.
[Hawkins lowers his gun and slightly alters his aim, hitting the terrorist directly in the forehead with a well-aimed shot]
Hawkins: NEVER talk about Mom...

Do we actually know the names of the people who shot him?

Chep Theodore Knollblazer Jr.

― Let me help you with your URL problems (blueski), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:43 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

belated YEAAAAAAAA-

Belated 'that must be from an automatic name generator for Martin Amis characters'.

here's what the media reported, obv based on what they were fed from pentagon and/or WH

Armed with an automatic weapon, the al-Qaeda leader's last act was to force his young bride to sacrifice her life as he tried to fire back at the US Navy Seals storming the compound.

Bin Laden was killed with a single shot to the head after being tracked down to a million-dollar compound just 35 miles from the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, where he is thought to have been living for six years.

The extraordinary details of his last stand were disclosed by the White House as the 13-year hunt for the world's most wanted man finally reached its bloody end.

and this is what the takeaway in sheboygan will be. it's not the 19th century. everybody knew what "happened" by monday morning. the small percentage of ppl who actually pay attention to the news will hear about the retraction, and the rest of them, well unfortunately you will be arguing with them at family barbecues for the next 5 years as they insist bin laden died in a hail of bullets behind his beautiful concubine-wife human shield while unloading his weapon on navy seals...

"Bin Laden was killed with a single shot to the head"

give or take 300 shots or so...

(i mean, i'm just speculating, but i'm guessing everyone in the room would want in on the action once they saw who they were shooting.)

The special forces involved in the attack work under the aegis of the Joint Special Operations Command, which does not routinely provide accurate public information about its activities or "secret warriors," according to National Journal's Marc Ambinder. He reported Monday:

Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That's the code.
The new "narrative" laid out by Tuesday was written by the Department of Defense, Carney said.
I don't imagine that many Americans will care whether bin Laden was armed or not when he resisted the individual who confronted him in Abbottabad. His "nature" was revealed to us long ago.

But the "narrative" of his death remains of significance to those who might seek to follow in his foot-steps. That's why its worth looking at these early reports with a skeptical eye.

How many casualties were there on the US side?

I am challopping that this hit was a "gimme"* courtesy of some level of Pakistan ISI/mil/gov cooperation, a culmination of 3-4 weeks ramped up power broker meetings between Petraeus/envoy diplos and various Pakistan military/intel chiefs. (*rather than the primary result of Bush/Obama interrogation and intel.)

Also, I'm suggesting that a lot of the facts that the US press has been given is fairy tale hawk fodder ($250M stealth helicopter "mechanicals", bin laden's "last stand", bizarrely contradictory details despite multiple video/photo documentation at scene).

xp just TRUTH

do you think these guys care about a press conference? retractions are for pussies!

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yeah e3 i just dont think its quite as sinister as all that. like the idea that the pentagon's plan all along was to feed the press a bullshit story and then retract it six hours later? so that sheboygan (which, again, like most of the country, couldnt possibly care less if osama used anyone as a human shield or was carrying a gun) would hear the human shield bit and then, being naturally incurious, not read anything else about the death? for... what purpose? i mean why bother? why bother retracting, for one thing?

oh wait i keep forgetting O and everyone where watching the whole thing. so i guess they didn't really get to take target practice on osama or anything...

i mean guys the pentagon is not that smart. they couldnt keep their shit together with pat tillman or jessica lynch, what makes them such public-relations badasses all of a sudden?

jihadist operatives hacked into the livefeed of the attack and are about to expose administration lies

I remember working one summer a few years ago picking up trash around the college of a conservative business college...from what I gathered the student apts. were mainly occupied by kids from the Netherlands for some reason; they were constantly burning chairs and couches. I'd drive out there monday morning to see the charred remains of some new piece of furniture.

They liked to throw jars of jam against walls too

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"celebrate around a burning couch"

right...?

that photo is cracking me up

Isn't it good, Norwegian Wood?

seems like it would be really really really hard to pull off a successful government conspiracy in this day and age

especially with all you smart dudes on the internet and your theories

forget that max is blase about our pro-Freedom administration lying their asses off to us just like BushCheneyCo, I have the sniffles over that sacrificed couch in the pic

(wait did Obama die of multiple gunshot wounds or a single shot to the head? or am i a dickhead for wondering?)

i mean guys the pentagon is not that smart. they couldnt keep their shit together with pat tillman or jessica lynch, what makes them such public-relations badasses all of a sudden?

they're not! and forget about motives, whether it's sinister or fog of war or human nature or run of the mill self-delusion, w/e. seeing how this went down and then going, well, they wouldn't intentionally lie to us about THIS seems kinda disingenuous to me.

xp (or was that all part of the retraction?)

oh wait i keep forgetting O and everyone where watching the whole thing.

I'm pretty sure that not every single soldier was wearing a helmet cam and that everythign was visible in the middle of the night.

max takes Fed spin on pure show business terms just like a post-democracy pundit should

that typo will always be funny

i took max's point to be, if they were intentionally lying to us, why admit the account was wrong? considering there was no pressure and no way their story could be authoritatively challenged.

these days i'm just having trouble telling the truth from the lies!!!!

what are we assuming was being watched in that now-famous room pic? like, helmet cams or something?

xp ha i guess yes, helmet cams it is!

Ubama Hussein

my eyes are rolled so far back in my head at this point i look like little orphan annie

jeez louise!!!! we need a straight shooter to tell it like it is!!!!

that's so you don't have to see their LIES man

xp

i think they could have just "went with it" w/r/t the first story because it was not necessarily unbelievable and to change the story to another "lie" seems to be a reach. i'm sure there are things they are not telling us but i'm sure there's also a lot of confusion with how everything went down so none of this should be surprising. of course, osama bin laden may also still be ALIVE for all we know!!!

I'm pretty sure that not every single soldier was wearing a helmet cam and that everythign was visible in the middle of the night.

On my drive home I heard "a caller from Jacksonville" on the local right wing talk show vow that should a helmet cam video get made and released it would sell "twenty million copies" in one week, "and I'd be the first in line to buy it!"