Bin Laden Dead?

Given what Pacino does these days, that sounds apt.

inspired

maybe Leon Panetta can play Al Pacino!

I somewhat concur w/'frat boy reactions' analysis but I'm not sure they were any less dignified than the kids in Abbottabad claiming that Osama was still alive or the ppl in Quetta all butthurt that he wasn't - popular demonstrations are often vulgar.

popular demonstrations are often vulgar.

like that youtube I posted above, shit's hilarious

Also, why have we not heard from Abbottt about all this? She was the first person I thought of when I heard the news.

As irritated as I am that the media got suckered, once again, by tales of cowardice on the part of our enemies, I think complaining about the "vulgarity" of demonstrations is almost as stupid.

It's pretty pointless

Y'all know my respect for Greenwald, but he's posted hack work the last two days. Steve Coll's New Yorker piece boasted the best show of ambivalence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSbecu_egQE

yeah i don't think greenwald really has his position on this whole thing worked out and it's kinda showing (not many of us do though)

otoh his point about believing the gov't account of the events is a fair one, even if the evidence he presents leaves me concluding they "were maybe not telling the truth" rather than they "were lying"

this geopolitical stuff seems awfully morally compromised!

― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 6:00 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

moment of clarity or sarcasm?

― lloyd banks knew my father (history mayne), dinsdag 3 mei 2011 19:25 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

LOL!

This instantly reminded me of Jerry and Elaine going: "Real George, or opposite?" after George said something wild, and then quickly agreeing: "Opposite."

"Walk back" is one of the most odious clichés extant.

why is that odious

was john brennan even in The Room when this happened?

"walk back" = euphemistic way of saying at best "revise" or, at worst , "lie."

was john brennan even in The Room when this happened?

Isn't he in the official WH photo released?

Tommy Wiseau joek

i can't remember, i'm looking for it.

hmmm!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1304363717

nrq, yer the biggest fucking bore imaginable. Alfred, raeding too much Sullivan has put you w/in shouting distance.

goin lookin for OBAMA WARLORD t-shirt, bye pundits

I'm sorry I proffered Steve Coll in return for Dennis Perrin and Greenwald.

Mission accomplished:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/223036_748065299184_20302192_38563288_2386802_n.jpg

ceasing drone operations in pakistan would basically mean ceasing the entire afghan war

the interpretation of petraeus as CIA cheif has been that he's "mr. drone". maybe that's way off, but a complete drone moratorium seems kind of unlikely.

not that i wouldn't mind 'cutting and running' personally!

― goole, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:54 (2 hours ago)

Mr. drone, that's my name, that name again is mr. drone.

jon lee anderson ruminates on the death of che

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/burial-lessons-from-che-to-bin-laden.html#ixzz1LIoFN9Y5

When, on the morning of October 9, 1967, Che was executed by Bolivian army rangers in an operation overseen by the C.I.A., his bullet-riddled body was airlifted by helicopter to the nearby town of Vallegrande. That afternoon, after nuns had washed his corpse, the dead Che was put on public display in the laundry house of the town’s hospital. Che’s corpse was viewed by hundreds of curious locals and a handful of journalists, who photographed it and filmed it. By that time, Bolivia’s military high command had issued a communiqué that Che had died of wounds suffered in battle. Guevara had, in fact, died of bullet wounds—but not in battle. After being wounded and taken alive, he had been held overnight, in the dirt-floored schoolhouse of a tiny rural hamlet. He was interrogated by a C.I.A. agent and Bolivian officers, and then executed, shot to death at close range by a Bolivian sergeant, who volunteered to do the job. The C.I.A. agent in charge ordered Che’s executioner to shoot him from the neck down so that it looked like he had died in battle, and he did.

i'm entertaining the possibility that what happened in osama's house is maybe not very much like how it's been characterized /alexjones

greenwald otm. I think the news media's blind eagerness to present bin Laden in cartoon-villain dimensions is subtly more disgraceful than all the drunken jingoistic revelry...

to think osama was an american hero once upon a time. a valiant freedom fighter!

Can't wait to read a Sy Hersh piece in the next few weeks/months.

Wish he was on Twitter.

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/14/8065b635-752f-4a63-ae97-84beaff28a19.Large.jpg

Helicopter by Miuccia Prada

Did anyone catch today's White House presser with John Carney to admit errors with John Brennan's claims of Osama's "armed resistance", and use of "wife" as "human shield" who was "killed".

Good stuff.

did his hair fall out to assume a perfect Ari Fleischer pattern?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpKqBvbx26s

Incredible piece by Gary Younge: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/03/bin-laden-death-us-patriot-reflex

xpost Yeah, too bad the press is disgracefully failing to depict this guy in the shades of nuance he deserves. On one hand, yeah, he was a messianic bringer of death excused by a twisted ideology. On the other hand, um, he kept cool under pressure?

the white house press secretary embarrassingly backtracking after incorrect initial accts would strike me as pretty good evidence against a massive--or even mid-sized--conspiracy theory

US forces were stationed just a few hundred yards from Osama Bin Laden's Abbottabad compound in October 2008, according to reports within the WikiLeaks embassy cables.

max, that's what they WANT you to think

Thanks Suzy, that is indeed a great article.

suzy, how is Yonge's substance any different than what D Perrin was saying?

xp to Josh in Chi: yeah let's just keep the news media the domain of pandering half-truths and unquestioning parroting of lying government officials. That should work out well for us...

pretty sure there's no such thing as a "great article" that starts with a paragraph-long Simpsons reference

xpost Yeah, too bad the press is disgracefully failing to depict this guy in the shades of nuance he deserves. On one hand, yeah, he was a messianic bringer of death excused by a twisted ideology. On the other hand, um, he kept cool under pressure?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:04 PM (15 seconds ago)

bin laden was even worse

*rimshot*

What an unmitigated piece of shit this woman is.

Speaking at a fundraising event Monday evening, Sarah Palin credited President Bush by name for the death of Osama bin Laden but omitted the name of President Obama in her remarks.

Palin spoke to a crowd at Colorado Christian University in Lakewood, Colo. “Yesterday was a testament to the military’s dedication in relentlessly hunting down an enemy through many years of war,” the former Alaska governor said. “And we thank our president. ... We thank President Bush for having made the right calls to set up this victory.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-palin-bin-laden-remarks-20110503,0,4220829.story

Bam = messianic bringer of revenge

xxp

i beat you to that joke!

the white house press secretary embarrassingly backtracking after incorrect initial accts would strike me as pretty good evidence against a massive--or even mid-sized--conspiracy theory

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 1:04 PM (3 minutes ago)

I'm just trying to imagine the conversations that led up to the back-pedalling... "Oh, wait, he wasn't resisting? Or even armed? Then he must have used his wife as a human shield, right? Oh no, she wasn't a human shield, she was just running out of the way and got shot in the back of the leg? Oh and she didn't die?"

it's a little like someone was playing Counterstrike while being briefed on how the mission played out and got confused

I hear she's recently single, do we have any pictures?

Then again, with "youngest wife" I'm guessing she is way young, right?

sure dude