Bin Laden Dead?

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"If you are watching this, then I am dead. And now, everyone ... look under your seats!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, wait. I'm thinking of Oprah's posthumous video.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

the truly Big O

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

This morning the public transit stations had police handing out "If you see something, say something" leaflets. I guess the terror code is whatever used to be orange or something.

Frankly i think 10+ years of bombing & occupying Muslim countries has done more to stoke the anti-US fires than killing this one guy, no matter how big a myth we've made of him.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.animedude.net/pics/2009/08/240px-big_o.jpg

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

btw "we wanted to bury him in accordance w/ Muslim law" is an awesome fig leaf for "you aint gettin the body"

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Nobody wanted the body anyway

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

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iatee otm

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Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

nobody is rather sweeping

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

wtf did aquaman ever do to you

― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:17 (2 hours ago)

if hongroes could fly this place would be a geirport (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

nobody is rather sweeping

Well they did ask the Saudis

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Frankly i think 10+ years of bombing & occupying Muslim countries has done more to stoke the anti-US fires than killing this one guy, no matter how big a myth we've made of him.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:26 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Guy? Guy? It's me, your cousin, Marvin Mann-Dude (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder if the US is gonna drop the whole "Pakistan is a key ally in the war on terror" thing now, and switch sides to India in exchange for trade guarantees

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

the wisdom-spin on Morning Edition was, well, Obama can't tell Pakistan they're grounded cuz they have nukes.

so I say
INVADE!

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder if the US is gonna drop the whole "Pakistan is a key ally in the war on terror" thing now, and switch sides to India in exchange for trade guarantees

They could do it, but it would be a spectacularly stupid thing to do diplomatically.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

They won't do that

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

pakistain is still a really dangerous and unstable potentially nukey-islamist hellhole

im sure the US cutting all ties would make everything fine though

lloyd banks knew my father (history mayne), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

"everything fine" an unshakable goal of enrique's realpolitik

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

The guy was already quickly becoming a fossil in his time, and there's some grim irony in the entire al Qaeda shtick about causing havoc to get popular sentiment against the US, leading to their own brand of regime change, when Osama was most likely reliant on the Pakistani ISS or even sympathetic individuals in the government.

I know it's not 100%, but the entire popular uprising movement that's been happening is killing al Qaeda as much or more than military action. They always claimed to be more of a resource center or clearinghouse for disparate groups, but that never really hashed out, and I think the idea of ObL as CEO of al Qaeda, Inc. is an idea that actually had traction within the group itself.

I still think that hanging from lightposts and screaming "USA!" in front of the White House is misguided and crass, and thinking that the death of one guy provides any sort of closure is still pretty misguided, but hey, sometimes symbolic things are worth it.

mh, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Oh yeah, and Pakistan is and always has been a clusterfuck.

mh, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

pakistain is still a really dangerous and unstable potentially nukey-islamist hellhole

Not to mention the rampant paranoia over and persecution complex vis a vis India

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

i think i'd like that to happen, but you don't let nuclearized countries dangle

http://nationalinterest.org/article/mutiny-grows-punjab-4889

^ must read!

xps lol you get the whole argument in real time around here

goole, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

sometimes symbolic things are worth it.

that's why I want Russ Feingold symbolically running against Bam once the postcoital thrill from this wears off.

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KxuGl.jpg

Frightening, but full of facts that are difficult to argue with. (dan m), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

That's some serious fruit salad.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Like he's going to need a bigger jacket if this keeps up.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

i can't help thinking the general dude is like "omg this rebecca black video is the WORST!!! brb"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty amazed that i don't know Sarah Palin's reaction on this news. Also relieved.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Do we actually know the names of the people who shot him?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think so no

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

we never will

goole, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Like regardless of the moral or legal or political implications, just imagine being that guy. I can't work out whether he'd be all "what if I have to spend the rest of my life in hiding?" or "I never need to worry about getting laid ever again".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty amazed that i don't know Sarah Palin's reaction on this news. Also relieved.

read CNN.com

basically, she's really appreciative of W

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

You never will. I know SEALs, they wont even tell you where theyve been the last six months.

xxxpost

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

I can't work out whether he'd be all "what if I have to spend the rest of my life in hiding?" or "I never need to worry about getting laid ever again".

Neither, because he's never going to tell anyone, EVER.

xxxp

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

How the GOP is getting the story wrong again.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

GOP & former Bush admin notables trying to use this to justify the use of torture is the exact opposite of surprising...

if hongroes could fly this place would be a geirport (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Countdown to the cries of "THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF NOT FOR WATERBOARDING" begin now.

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SteakNique (®2011 Ulillillia) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Do we actually know the names of the people who shot him?

Chep Theodore Knollblazer Jr.

Let me help you with your URL problems (blueski), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Really can't see how Bush buddies can truly claim the former Pres had anything to do with this at all, aside from his assist in promoting Bin Laden to arch villain in the first place. If Bush knew how to catch him, he would have. If Bush policies made it possible to catch him, they would have. Though I suppose the Bush admin was nothing if not defined by delusion.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

The truth of a matter has never bothered them, so why start now?

a modest broposal (suzy), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/

goole, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

still, would loooove to see Limbaugh endorse Obama for reelection

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

My boss is now claiming he has a link to the video. Am going to offer a generous bet on Rick Astley being on the other side.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

virus

President Keyes, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

haha jason burke (observer reporter and author of a book on al quaeda) just got merked:

@burke_jason Jason Burke
unconfirmed but good source RT @azelin: Breaking! Al Qaeda Releases Bin Laden's Final Video http://youtu.be/cUKkm2MEfpQ

burke_jason Jason Burke
who was having a bit of a joke ... sorry .. is very later where i am ...
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joe, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

come on Josh, the intelligence on OBL has been a continuous thing, starting with Clinton. Obama may have given it fresh urgency - i don't know - but saying Bush (or more accurately, the CIA and armed forces during the Bush administration) had "nothing to do with this" is false.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

"I know, right? Numbers is WAY better than Catch Bull at Four. I don't get why people think that one is so great."

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/5/2/1304330744836/Osama-Bin-Laden-in-a-cave-008.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

Tea for the Tillerman dude

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

pissing myself at the oSama/oBama pronunciation confusion. small things.

territory of the magic wand (Chris), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:40 (fifteen years ago)


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