Bin Laden Dead?

I understand killing people sucks, but I don't know if I'm a universal "killing is bad" pacifist now. Sometimes, you gotta bust into a compound in Pakistan and shoot a guy and it's a-ok in my book and a reason to breathe a sigh of something or another.

― mh, Monday, May 2, 2011 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

feelin this post

My sister just visited from England, and literally one of only three things on her agenda was going to Taco Bell. She thinks if she opened a Taco Bell in Leeds she'd be rich.

I would be fine w/ life in prison for osama

I think it'd be a bigger 'fuck you' in a way and pretty symbolic

but obv that would be impossible in this country

mh: unless you know, there's more to come

I wd "cap" most of the interviewees in Inside Job

Wouldn't disagree but I have a low tolerance for the shitstorm of political drama that would ensue. xxp

but wd settle for life sentences

instead, caviar all around!

xp

So think Bin Laden had a backlog of posthumous tapes ready to go, like Yul Brynner's anti-smoking PSA? If not it seems like a big missed opportunity.

There's supposed to be a posthumous one coming

iatee otm

"If you are watching this, then I am dead. And now, everyone ... look under your seats!"

Oh, wait. I'm thinking of Oprah's posthumous video.

the truly Big O

This morning the public transit stations had police handing out "If you see something, say something" leaflets. I guess the terror code is whatever used to be orange or something.

Frankly i think 10+ years of bombing & occupying Muslim countries has done more to stoke the anti-US fires than killing this one guy, no matter how big a myth we've made of him.

http://www.animedude.net/pics/2009/08/240px-big_o.jpg

btw "we wanted to bury him in accordance w/ Muslim law" is an awesome fig leaf for "you aint gettin the body"

Nobody wanted the body anyway

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iatee otm

― estkella (k3vin k.), dinsdag 3 mei 2011 16:17 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

nobody is rather sweeping

wtf did aquaman ever do to you

― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:17 (2 hours ago)

nobody is rather sweeping

Well they did ask the Saudis

Frankly i think 10+ years of bombing & occupying Muslim countries has done more to stoke the anti-US fires than killing this one guy, no matter how big a myth we've made of him.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:26 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM

i wonder if the US is gonna drop the whole "Pakistan is a key ally in the war on terror" thing now, and switch sides to India in exchange for trade guarantees

the wisdom-spin on Morning Edition was, well, Obama can't tell Pakistan they're grounded cuz they have nukes.

so I say
INVADE!

i wonder if the US is gonna drop the whole "Pakistan is a key ally in the war on terror" thing now, and switch sides to India in exchange for trade guarantees

They could do it, but it would be a spectacularly stupid thing to do diplomatically.

They won't do that

pakistain is still a really dangerous and unstable potentially nukey-islamist hellhole

im sure the US cutting all ties would make everything fine though

"everything fine" an unshakable goal of enrique's realpolitik

The guy was already quickly becoming a fossil in his time, and there's some grim irony in the entire al Qaeda shtick about causing havoc to get popular sentiment against the US, leading to their own brand of regime change, when Osama was most likely reliant on the Pakistani ISS or even sympathetic individuals in the government.

I know it's not 100%, but the entire popular uprising movement that's been happening is killing al Qaeda as much or more than military action. They always claimed to be more of a resource center or clearinghouse for disparate groups, but that never really hashed out, and I think the idea of ObL as CEO of al Qaeda, Inc. is an idea that actually had traction within the group itself.

I still think that hanging from lightposts and screaming "USA!" in front of the White House is misguided and crass, and thinking that the death of one guy provides any sort of closure is still pretty misguided, but hey, sometimes symbolic things are worth it.

Oh yeah, and Pakistan is and always has been a clusterfuck.

pakistain is still a really dangerous and unstable potentially nukey-islamist hellhole

Not to mention the rampant paranoia over and persecution complex vis a vis India

i think i'd like that to happen, but you don't let nuclearized countries dangle

http://nationalinterest.org/article/mutiny-grows-punjab-4889

^ must read!

xps lol you get the whole argument in real time around here

sometimes symbolic things are worth it.

that's why I want Russ Feingold symbolically running against Bam once the postcoital thrill from this wears off.

http://i.imgur.com/KxuGl.jpg

That's some serious fruit salad.

Like he's going to need a bigger jacket if this keeps up.

i can't help thinking the general dude is like "omg this rebecca black video is the WORST!!! brb"

Pretty amazed that i don't know Sarah Palin's reaction on this news. Also relieved.

Do we actually know the names of the people who shot him?

i don't think so no

we never will

Like regardless of the moral or legal or political implications, just imagine being that guy. I can't work out whether he'd be all "what if I have to spend the rest of my life in hiding?" or "I never need to worry about getting laid ever again".

Pretty amazed that i don't know Sarah Palin's reaction on this news. Also relieved.

read CNN.com

basically, she's really appreciative of W

You never will. I know SEALs, they wont even tell you where theyve been the last six months.

xxxpost

I can't work out whether he'd be all "what if I have to spend the rest of my life in hiding?" or "I never need to worry about getting laid ever again".

Neither, because he's never going to tell anyone, EVER.

xxxp

How the GOP is getting the story wrong again.

GOP & former Bush admin notables trying to use this to justify the use of torture is the exact opposite of surprising...

Countdown to the cries of "THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF NOT FOR WATERBOARDING" begin now.

― SteakNique (®2011 Ulillillia) (Phil D.), Monday, May 2, 2011 10:40 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Do we actually know the names of the people who shot him?

Chep Theodore Knollblazer Jr.

Really can't see how Bush buddies can truly claim the former Pres had anything to do with this at all, aside from his assist in promoting Bin Laden to arch villain in the first place. If Bush knew how to catch him, he would have. If Bush policies made it possible to catch him, they would have. Though I suppose the Bush admin was nothing if not defined by delusion.