Bin Laden Dead?

things done changed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HOVEDy_HGU

Hahhaa that MLK quote has been all over my FB today. I wonder if I should be a killjoy and post that link.

I did, mostly b/c it's fitting with my FB persona.

― jaymc, Tuesday, May 3, 2011 3:32 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

One of my other friends beat me to it, and now all the other posters of quote are going "yeah but the sentiment is what matters ok?".

― Trayce, Tuesday, May 3, 2011 3:42 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

It's more interesting than that I think. It's obvious that MLK said a lot of things very much like that and that his sentiments chime with the (possibly) made-up quote (which even if it is made up seems to pre-date the death of OBL) but it's curious someone didn't just use a real, easily verifiable quote - I suppose the 140 limit rules most of them out though. Whatever, I'm still with fake MLK.

knew this was coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg

BBC website earlier had the strap "Live: Recorded coverage after Bin Laden's death".

His whole argument falls apart because if they couldve used a frozen body for political save-a-pres why didnt Bush do so when Obama was clearly going to sweep the floor with him last election?

Because sometimes "Whooo, danger out there" gets sold?

the "mlk" quote wasn't even that good, fucking hippies

Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when he stumbles, do not let your heart rejoice - Proverbs 24:17

Got into several arguments tonight because I can't get on board with "any man's death diminishes me" - understanding the problematic aspects, I'm happy when some people die. 'Evil' is complicated, but when your existence makes the world a shittier place, I'm not going to not celebrate your death out of any desire for a moral high ground.

That's all very well, but if you want to celebrate, go and stand next to the guy with the foam hand shouting "Whooo, we're number 1"

yeah, jeez, what's up with that guy

I was watching the decent news channel earlier and they were showing the Afghan president basically saying "look we're glad he's dead, and please, remember how much Afghanistan resisted the taliban and al-quaeda and give us some respect and peace and help us become a free country in te face of all this". That gave me quite some perspective. We're not the ones having the living shit bombed out of us every single day.

God knows how we actually go about getting out of Afghanistan though, can't see either the US or Britain going "yep, Bin Laden's dead, bye guys!" Whoever said "it'll help us move on" upthread seems hopelessly optimistic (or sarcastic).

also, nobody's thinking that the Taliban are now going "oh, guy's dead, we'll postpone the upcoming terror offensive"

are they?

Sadly I've seen enough img captures of people saying things like "we won" and "its over" to think some people honestly think that might be so, which is depressing.

God knows how we actually go about getting out of Afghanistan though, can't see either the US or Britain going "yep, Bin Laden's dead, bye guys!" Whoever said "it'll help us move on" upthread seems hopelessly optimistic (or sarcastic).

ehh, i don't think that people are really talking in terms of the on the ground situation, though, you know; they're talking about the viability of leaving with enough superficial change effected to feel ok about doing so. like someone cynical could say that we left iraq with less of a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED vibe than the US could reductively claim in having 'got' OBL. it would help people feel better about moving on, is the thing.

it is kinda gross to imagine that this should punctuate the sprawling mess that has been afghanistan military action but just, it must so obviously function as an 'end of an era' thing in some respects that it would make winding it all down seem somehow related. you just hope afghanistan would get trillions in aid afterwards, but that didn't happen with vietnam iirc.

I used to work at a satellite company that had customers in Baghdad and other Iraq cities. They were just internet cafes and things. Every week, they'd call up to ask us to recalibrate their coordinates because the building they were in had been bombed and they had to move. Every bloody week. It was quite depressing. These were just regular joes trying to have a normal life.

I posted the link to the MLK quote being partially fabricated because it bothers me in this day and age that whenever we want to quote an important figure, if the quote doesn't 100% jibe with what we're trying to say, rather than find another quote, just go ahead and fabricate it and circulate it anyway cuz it's the "spirit" that matters.

fuck that.

it makes me more ticked off cuz the main reason someone hacked his quote was essentially to go "SEE, ALL YOU ALL THAT ARE HAPPY THAT OSAMA IS DEAD ARE BAD PEOPLE AND MLK DOESN'T LIKE YOU"

also there are just some people who I will be glad when they die.

When Rush Limbaugh dies, I'm throwing a week-long party.

Yeah, most of the Britishers with that quote/sanctimony on will be OVERJOYED and DANCING come the demise of one M Thatcher.

does this mean we can stop doing "god bless america" at yankee stadium now? PLEEEEASE?

DREEEEAMM ON.... I'm sure they'll have two eagles fucking on the field at the next Yankee home game. And I smell a new federal holiday, perhaps in time for a campaign parade next year.

The MSNBC quartet of clowns were a disgrace last night (in about one minute each).

there's going to be a 30 minute patriotic medley during the 7th inning from now on

I understand killing people sucks, but I don't know if I'm a universal "killing is bad" pacifist now.

oh, if Al Qaeda had snuffed out the last admin, I'da sent em a check

I also added a note relating to Mordy's mention that there's no specific Jewish problem with celebrating death!

lotta Likud goin' to heaven.

dying at eagles fucking tbh

One of my other friends beat me to it, and now all the other posters of quote are going "yeah but the sentiment is what matters ok?".

― Trayce, Monday, May 2, 2011 11:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

So I'm guessing they're big fans of A Million Little Pieces

Yeah, most of the Britishers with that quote/sanctimony on will be OVERJOYED and DANCING come the demise of one M Thatcher.

OTM

To, tbf, dancing but not not overjoyed

in re bin laden/celebration/whatever imo there's very few legit boogeymen in the world at any one time, i think ppl are allowed to enjoy this one

Double negative! (xp)

fact is, when some pieces of shit die, there should be dancing in the streets. fuck all life being sanctimonious, we need people to demonize, it's how we get through work each day...

xps - Agreed - it would have been nice if someone had used a real quote (there are plenty) but I don't think they made it up for this. If I had seen it I would have thought it quite pithy and relevant and probably wouldn't have checked it out too much.

xp - If it's sanctimonious not to "rejoice" in someone elses death then so be it. I won't be dancing/overjoyed when Thatch dies either. I must be a fucking hippy.

xp - who gets to decide who the "pieces of shit" are? Is my problem with that.

As Midge Ure put it, Dancing With Tears In My Eye

People whose deaths I will celebrate:

Dubya
Limbaugh
Kim Jong-Il
Aquaman

I'll keep believing the 'fake quote' and ppl who believe we had to A-bomb the Japanese can believe that.

xpost people get to decide for themselves who the 'pieces of shit' are in my own eyes. My main problem is the last two days for some people, as I mentioned earlier, have been nothing but fingerpointing and "HOW DARE YOU BE HAPPY THAT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IS DEAD".

It's not like the other side was going "HOW DARE YOU NOT BE HAPPY!!!"

xpost I totally keep a copy of "Our Friend the Atom" in the bathroom, along with "Get in the Van" and "The Commissar Vanishes."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMo_HcRBnUY

It's not like the other side was going "HOW DARE YOU NOT BE HAPPY!!!"

No, they just call them sanctimonious.

I really don't care that ObL is dead. I'm ill that it's why the drones love America.

one thing Osama's death didn't do to me is stimulate my inner nationalism, cuz well rampant nationalism is still stupid sorry guys

it's like the usa putting "We the Best" on and then playing it on a 7000 inch boombox so the rest of the world can't ignore it

Nice of them not to shoot him before the Royal Wedding was all done and dusted.

we we we we
we so excited!

a ha ha ha ha, oh dear.

i'd wager brits who put that soppy fake-MLK quote on facebook or whatever probably aren't old enough to know who thatcher is/was (xposts)

Oh, brits, is it?