Bin Laden Dead?

"Osama To Be Posthumously Sued By the RIAA for 10 Gajillion Dollars"

Seeing supposed Admin quotes re "woman in compound killed was not (Bin Laden's) wife." House Repubs credit Obama with continuing on Bush's quest.

breaking at POLITICO: SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives that U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”

osama's mole at ctu already erased that shit by now

was just world of warcraft iirc

this was after we dropped atom bombs on two Japanese cities when Japan had actively been seeking to negotiate a surrender treaty since April

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, May 2, 2011 3:58 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

bet you anything americans were not entirely celebrating incinerating a few hundred thousand japanese, they were celebrating the end to the longest, largest and worst war the country had ever been in (since the civil). if you check the headlines, they don't really say "victory" or "we won" but "war is over." war weariness in 1945 was off the charts.

It isn't. They were taking fire and returned fire, from what I've read.

Haha. The idea that any member of the public will know for sure what happened in there is ridiculous.

at least 2-3 of those people in the crowd had to be sick freaks who were only there to celebrate the incineration of japanese cities

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/289778550.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1304384405&Signature=VPAEtBs12McQFmSMy0GD11s47ac%3D

really want to know how the herald sun got him, and why the age is so willing to give them the credit

herald sun is murdoch and therefore considers itself a vital part of the coalition of the killing

just as an educational aside

at least 2-3 of those people in the crowd had to be sick freaks who were only there to celebrate the incineration of japanese cities

Wishful thinking?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse

LOL a those deep-in-thought Obama pictures, like this was a tough call to make. "Hmm, should we kill him? Or should we let him go? Hmm, must think on this ..."

Like, in this clip, Pee Wee is Osama, and the bikers are all Obama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXJHClvsCA

i admire Barack's stoicism

http://twitpic.com/4sidks

yes, that pic is wau

What was that Herald Sun pic? I cant see it for soem reason

Honestly, I had a hope that the civilized part of my brain was barely suppressing that the delay in the press conference was because they were busy getting a sealed box to Obama with bin Laden's head in it so he could hold it up during the speech.

"America, I told you I would kill Osama, and here's my proof!"

'please, become Wrath"

bet you anything americans were not entirely celebrating incinerating a few hundred thousand japanese, they were celebrating the end to the longest, largest and worst war the country had ever been in (since the civil). if you check the headlines, they don't really say "victory" or "we won" but "war is over." war weariness in 1945 was off the charts.

I take your point, but I'd also guess you've seen as much really beyond-grotesque anti-Japanese U.S. propaganda as I have - the V-J day headlines are largely WAR OVER / PEACE etc but the Hiroshima headlines are

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_X00dB9DjtkY/SWAAtqTKYDI/AAAAAAAAClk/DE6VN494j9I/s640/1-2-09%20043.jpg

and

http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam312/1945nyt.jpg

and

http://members.kos.net/sdgagnon/nrug02.jpg

there's nothing objectionable at all about the NYT headline.

are those meant to be anti-japanese headlines or am misunderstanding you?

they sound mostly horrified/awed to me

the subheader "steel tower vaporized in trial of mighty bomb" is kinda uhhh

is the third one, "Inside And Outside, Everybody Died" not showing up?

http://aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/05/20115241936984209.html

and no aero, it isn't

what was pittsburghs' status as a US city in the 1940s?

JAP 'PITTSBURGH' HIT <-- this is a bizarre thing to say

I don't really see anything exultant about those headlines

were there spontaneous celebrations the day of Hiroshima? Because if they waited until surrender I don't think you have a strong case here.

hah i totally missed the pittsburgh thing

anyway I'm not gonna ride this point, I don't think bloodlust is exactly a new phenomenon & I don't think Americans are especially more crass now than they were when you could play a "kill the jap" game at bars in 1944

to be fair "boom goes the dynamite" hadn't been coined yet

"Holocaust in Hiroshima Exclamation Point" is a bit much

Ramin Mehmanparast - Iran's foreign ministry spokesman

US and their allies have no more excuse to deploy forces in the Middle East under pretext of fighting terrorism.

--
would be curious to see the context in which most of these quotes reside

also wondering when 'holocaust' began referring specifically to the concentration camps

what if they could prove that jews have horns, would it still be anti-semitic to say that? think about it.

― You Get Hoynes (bnw)

killed me

i realize that this was before the word came fully to refer to what it refers to now, but one of those calls it a "holocaust"

also i mean communication w/ the japanese in the last months of the war is definitely kind of weird and fishy and full of odd translation errors and imperial hedging and even (after the bombings) an attempted coup of sorts but saying they'd been "actively trying to negotiate a surrender since april" is kind of disingenuous given what was at the very least an ambiguous reaction to the potsdam ultimatum.

that said i'm certainly glad i don't have that on my personal conscience.

http://aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/05/20115241936984209.html

also o____O at the pakistani taleban quote

anyway I'm not gonna ride this point, I don't think bloodlust is exactly a new phenomenon & I don't think Americans are especially more crass now than they were when you could play a "kill the jap" game at bars in 1944

this is obv true though and not just for america. i'm willing to forgive a certain amount of this in a country that's after all just a bunch of people. (especially in the case of ww2 when the surrender meant the boys were coming home.)

what was pittsburghs' status as a US city in the 1940s

http://www.peakbagger.com/pbgeog/histmetropop.aspx

top 10ish

I think the general reaction Americans on the day of Hiroshima was more "holy shit" and "how the hell does one bomb do that?" rather than dancing in the streets.

when i was a kid i had this old hardcover book published by disney that was called OUR FRIEND THE ATOM (expanded from the disney TV episode of the same name which apparently they showed everyone in school) and had as its framing device/central metaphor a handsomely illustrated rendition of The Fisherman And The Genie, the idea being that the genie is powerful but also sickeningly dangerous, and the whole thing was on this (to me in the 1990s) utterly strange knife-edge between brisk cheerful disney-newsreel futurism and primal unnameable fear. it's one of the oddest and most affecting artifacts i've ever seen and i tend to assume it sums up the decade.

omg the atom is saidin

("the decade" being 1945-1962 i guess, or -1991, or -now, who even knows)

oh here