Bin Laden Dead?

maybe if I'm feeling generous, a safety

I don't see how assassination is somehow morally superior to a flawed trial.

i think Bin Laden cd reasonably have been tried for crimes against humanity, tho that wd involve the US handing him over. this is all "balance of possibilities" stuff but i dunno that killing him was a clear bonus over taking him alive

I don't see how assassination is somehow morally superior to a flawed trial.

It isn't. They were taking fire and returned fire, from what I've read.

if there was a trial, we shoulda let Lorax be his defense

saddam was a 60-yard reception.

"today not only will i prove bin laden was not responsible for 9/11, but that in fact the person responsible was close to home all along -- that it was in fact <POINTED FINGER/CROWD GASPS> GWB!" xp

Yeah, classifying this as an assassination seems way off, like it was some dude with a bigass scoped rifle from a klick away, as opposed to the big shoot-out in final reel.

http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/09/kevin-costner-jfk.jpg

"That's some bullet. Never in the history of warfare has there been a bullet this ridiculous."

really? it was basically an assassination unless capture was extremely convenient.

and yeah i think capping the dude was the right move and will be much, much better in the long run.

And yet, even if that is true, polyphonic, it's not what people believe was done. The narrative, encouraged by politicians and the media, is that this was a wuccessful mission to "take out Bin Laden". And that version of events seems to have been given almost unanimous moral thumbs up.

Newman [/snarl]

to reiterate --

"Atta was in my Illuminati group. I taught him everything. He was a wannabe. No one liked him. Thought he was a snitch. But I treated him good. He wanted his kid to grow up with a chance. My neck is killing me. I've had cancer for years. Been working with mice to find a cure. You don't leave the neocons. Once you're in, they got you for life. Chertoff's an untouchable. Highest clearance. Chertoff, Atta, Al Qaeda, all Agency. Cheney was there from the start. Set up Texas Al Qaeda. Ran guns to Saddam when he was on our side. Saddam was almost with us till we tried to whack him.

Everybody keeps flipping sides. It's fun and games, man! The neocons and Al Qaeda worked together for years trying to take down those towers. There's more to this than you could dream! Check out something called "Operation Liberty Tower." Big time project. They're in charge. But who pulls whose chain? Who knows? "Oh, what a deadly web we weave when we practice to deceive." Who took down the towers?? Why didn't you fucking stop it? Shit! This is too big for you, you know that? Who did the towers?? Fuck! It's a mystery! It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma! The hijackers don't even know! Don't you get it? Fuck, man! I can't keep talking like this!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9mJMdcqGeA

and yeah i think capping the dude was the right move and will be much, much better in the long run.

Why? Because it gives the American public what it wants, or because it will reduce terrorism?

are you really that thick?

as if capturing him would have reduced it?

he was a bogeyman, but y'know one that actually orchestrated the murder of thousands of people and attempted many more.

"Atta was in my Illuminati group. I taught him everything. He was a wannabe. No one liked him. Thought he was a snitch. But I treated him good. He wanted his kid to grow up with a chance. My neck is killing me. I've had cancer for years. Been working with mice to find a cure. You don't leave the neocons. Once you're in, they got you for life. Chertoff's an untouchable. Highest clearance. Chertoff, Atta, Al Qaeda, all Agency. Cheney was there from the start. Set up Texas Al Qaeda. Ran guns to Saddam when he was on our side. Saddam was almost with us till we tried to whack him.

YES

they could've stuck him under a big box on a rope tho and caught the dudes that tried to rescue him

lol

Why? Because it gives the American public what it wants, or because it will reduce terrorism?

― Alba, Monday, May 2, 2011 7:41 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because we will get to move on.

"Bin Laden revealed to be high ranking Obama official wearing comedy mustache"

in terms of generating new wingnut conspiracy theories there was no viable option because they are wingnuts

if this was an M. Night Shalamayan flick, we woulda found out what we thought was the USA all along was just a well built replica or something.....

Thanks to whoever it was that posted that MLK quote, btw. Good night.

It was a firefight, way before the ambush(started, oh, about ten years ago). Shot him in the chest too (says Govt. spokesman).

I've been out of the country and managed to completely miss all this, but the BBC is being very strangely triumphalist. While I'm kinda happy he's gone, I can't see this actually changing much and possibly only inflaming the current climate - bit uneasy about being in London over the next few months. OTOH the geopolitical map, especially in the Middle East, feels so enormously different to 10 years ago that who can say really? Sure this has all been said upthread anyway.

breaking at POLITICO: SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives that U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”

I hear they may contain information on Bin Laden's whereabouts.

Ugh, came out tonight to a whole bunch of my hyper-conservative relatives on FB spouting off about "this doesn't add up", "we aren't being told something", "this is all a lie", smdh.

i got a fiver on it being the collected works of the Eagles on mp3

"Did you put that fucking shit in the papers?"

"Who is this?"

"You know know exactly who the fuck this is!"

"Zacarias?"

"THat's right!"

― gear (gear), Thursday, May 18, 2006

"this doesn't add up - Osama's dead and a conservative didn't kill him."

"Osama To Be Posthumously Sued By the RIAA for 10 Gajillion Dollars"

Seeing supposed Admin quotes re "woman in compound killed was not (Bin Laden's) wife." House Repubs credit Obama with continuing on Bush's quest.

breaking at POLITICO: SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives that U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”

osama's mole at ctu already erased that shit by now

was just world of warcraft iirc

this was after we dropped atom bombs on two Japanese cities when Japan had actively been seeking to negotiate a surrender treaty since April

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, May 2, 2011 3:58 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

bet you anything americans were not entirely celebrating incinerating a few hundred thousand japanese, they were celebrating the end to the longest, largest and worst war the country had ever been in (since the civil). if you check the headlines, they don't really say "victory" or "we won" but "war is over." war weariness in 1945 was off the charts.

It isn't. They were taking fire and returned fire, from what I've read.

Haha. The idea that any member of the public will know for sure what happened in there is ridiculous.

at least 2-3 of those people in the crowd had to be sick freaks who were only there to celebrate the incineration of japanese cities

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/289778550.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1304384405&Signature=VPAEtBs12McQFmSMy0GD11s47ac%3D

really want to know how the herald sun got him, and why the age is so willing to give them the credit

herald sun is murdoch and therefore considers itself a vital part of the coalition of the killing

just as an educational aside

at least 2-3 of those people in the crowd had to be sick freaks who were only there to celebrate the incineration of japanese cities

Wishful thinking?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse

LOL a those deep-in-thought Obama pictures, like this was a tough call to make. "Hmm, should we kill him? Or should we let him go? Hmm, must think on this ..."

Like, in this clip, Pee Wee is Osama, and the bikers are all Obama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXJHClvsCA

i admire Barack's stoicism