Bin Laden Dead?

hey guys did you remember when bin laden died?

― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, May 2, 2011 6:47 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah in an awesome scarface style shootout with navy seals at his fuckin sweet gangsta mansion

Can we talk about Pakistan's ISI?

here's something for a slate explainer: will the seal who shot him get that $multimillion reward?

whoever shot him is pretty set for life regardless. could prob be a motivational speaker.

where are the tony montana image macros I ask you

I did find it funny how the media stressed the fact that it was an American missile that took him out

I'd be curious what they'd say if he was killed by friendly fire or if they'd just say it was an American missile

sod this i'll be cross if trump doesn't win tonight

What the hell are you talking about? Get off this thread if you can't even read the news.
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"missile"

whoever shot him is pretty set for life regardless. could prob be a motivational speaker.

― iatee, Monday, May 2, 2011 1:03 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark

i have to imagine your ex-special forces dudes are fairly well set up? maybe not tho, scrapping around for some outfit like blackwater seems a little undignified to me, and the money is famously very good. but clearly men who get into this line of work are wired up a little different than you or me, they just really like it possibly.

we're never gonna know who it was, is the thing.

"missile" what the fuck are you even talking about

"Did anyone ever see bin Laden and Obama in the same room?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuMShxAq7XQ

Are they saying he was shot now? I watched the first hour of coverage and the headline was that it was a missile but there was a possibility he was shot, dunno what they're saying now

btw that was totally not the point of that post

omg

what would the motive be if someone believed for whatever reason that Bush wasn't born in the country?

god just shut up

he stepped on a rake, frogbs

Fwiw, I criticized Dubya's forced hick affectation since he deliberately invoked it, like Sarah Palin, as some sorta "Real 'Murrican" dog-whistle so his target audience would overlook the whole Andover/Yale/millionaire thing.

We've moved past this, I know, just wanted to put that out there.

frogbs it's a bit harder to discredit Dubya's citizenship/birth, considering HIS FATHER WAS A PRESIDENT!

there's an enormous amount of evidence that states that Obama was born in Hawaii, and anyone who was legitimately trying to claim otherwise has been discredited, so basically right now if you believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii, it's basically because you choose to, because of whatever underlying assumptions you hold that makes it easier to believe that Obama is an interloping foreigner who has hijacked this country rather than a legitimately-elected President. Forgive us if we scan that as being racist somehow.

also: Bush is worst prez ever bcz he's subliterate fuckup who's first term was stolen

Pentagon releases slides showing exact location and layout of bin Laden compound: http://abcn.ws/lEDXax

early reports were that he died after using a woman as a human shield. she wasn't great body armour.

god just shut up

dude just sb and move on

(xp to whatever) I was a little nonplussed w/ ^that...fine if it's true, but it kinda plays into our apparent need to turn UBL into some sort of silent-movie caricature villain

there are millions of people who will never ever believe that obama was born in the states. no matter what evidence you have. most of those people are so beyond "facts" in general.

hey, maybe read a single article, the transcript of Obama's message, or ANYTHING factual before talking random shit about this. go away.

fwiw we have all sb'ed and are attempting to move on

Oh man it makes me feel a whole lot better about frogbs when I realize he doesn't even have a grasp on the basics.

Pentagon releases slides showing exact location and layout of bin Laden compound: http://abcn.ws/lEDXax

i'm worried about the other place up the road now.

I cracked a joke about bin Laden having a huge stockpile of oil in the garage of that house

i was hoping they would find ~1 trillion $$$ in his mattress
http://costofwar.com/en/

xpost Reported as shot in the head.

So does this set the stage for inevitable military action in Pakistan? Or at least further ... complications?

frogbs it's a bit harder to discredit Dubya's citizenship/birth, considering HIS FATHER WAS A PRESIDENT!

there's an enormous amount of evidence that states that Obama was born in Hawaii, and anyone who was legitimately trying to claim otherwise has been discredited, so basically right now if you believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii, it's basically because you choose to, because of whatever underlying assumptions you hold that makes it easier to believe that Obama is an interloping foreigner who has hijacked this country rather than a legitimately-elected President. Forgive us if we scan that as being racist somehow.

well make up your own conspiracy theory. say he's adopted, or say it about Clinton or something. it doesn't have to make a lot of sense

also even if you don't believe Obama was born in this country, it doesn't mean you don't think he could still have America's best interests at heart (or whatever you believe the typical American president cares about)

obviously the argument is pretty much over now

So, how about the ISI? It's like Pakistan has two groups in charge, where one is this independent military group and one pretending to be a legitimate government and neither is that effective.

If no one official in Pakistan knew that ObL was there, I'll eat my hat.

Oh man it makes me feel a whole lot better about frogbs when I realize he doesn't even have a grasp on the basics.

the 'basics' AKA what was being reported in the news before I went to bed? sorry??

I don't really get it frogz; it's like you're trolling yourself...

I just heard OBL referred to on the radio as an "irreplaceable asset" for Pakistan by the reasonable Lawrence Wright, who notes that he was worth more to them (in US aid) alive than he was dead. Wright's assumption really is that Pakistan's military was protecting him to some degree. Which is not much of a surprise, but still comes off sour when spoken out loud.

not understanding the difference between speculation and reportage of known facts, pretty key here for frogbs

I could see OBL as a card that Pakistan was debating when to play. Alive they get funds, but if they "found" him and turned him over, it'd be a boon for their reputation. Unfortunately, we kind of did that for them and now they're just standing around holding the bag.

the first thing one of my coworkers did when he walked in was make a long-form death certificate joke

(I know that part of the conversation was about a million posts ago but I kind of refuse to participate in the nonsense that happened while I was gone)

I don't really get it frogz; it's like you're trolling yourself...

society's fault? no. you trolled yourself

i'm regretting getting sucked into it myself

i don't really think how he was killed is exactly relevant here i was just saying the way they were trumpeting partroitism was pretty amusing, geraldo was pretty histerical about this and i found it odd and a little scary

no one in my office has mentioned it yet.
national guard out particularly strong in the subways; four guys with camo and rifles at the 34th street stop looking particularly icy

society's fault? no. you trolled yourself

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, May 2, 2011 2:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

???

ice-t reference iirc

no, I don't think the whole thing is; like, my Dad thinks he was not born in America, but also thinks the rule that you can't be U.S. President if you weren't born here is stupid and doesn't think he should be thrown out or anything, just maybe a result of reading some bad blogs or something

belatedly: this is awesome, & kinda like the michele bachmann thing whereby the argument rests not on one's compliance with law or receipt of information, but on the grace of the other side - bachman deigning to 'take him at his word', & ol' man frogbs equanimity in overlooking dumb laws and those who flaunt them

I'm mad because the link to the insane song is way up in the middle of the nonsense and I am exercising my right as an American to lazily whine about how I have to exert effort to get something easily obtainable

was lollin' all day at MJ GONE -- OUR NIGGA DEAD

ice-t reference iirc

thank God

anyone else find themselves surprisingly elated by the news? wouldn't have expected to give a shit really. guess i've been reading too much hitchens.

national guard out particularly strong in the subways; four guys with camo and rifles at the 34th street stop looking particularly icy

this is good. I could totally see something happening this week.

do you really?

a foreign policy dude i check for (but don't agree with about very much) gives his take

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bin-laden-killed-5674519

nothing earth shattering really!

like i know i'm a midwestern rube who lives in an unimportant city, but (honest q) are ppl really expecting swift, successful retribution for this? i've never really bought the idea that obl was, like, a folk hero. dude facilitated terrorism, but i can't imagine he ~inspired~ it.

maybe i'm wrong, but i never got a "revolutionary" vibe

I think it's ok to feel elated, OBL killed 3K of my neighbords. How often do people like him never have to pay the piper? I'm thinking of Pol Pot and Pinochet living to be old men when they, too, deserved bullets to the brain.