Bin Laden Dead?

all these war-on-terr'r-narrative conservatives spluttering sour grapes is like watching a bunch of robots malfunction

basically everything about pakistan freaks me out and these events aren't really helping

though here's a tyler cowen post recommending some book or other that he read in the last 45 mins

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/05/pakistan-a-hard-country.html

clinton didn't have to deal with insanity like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_scare_in_Denver

before he was even elected!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/02/osama.twitter.reports/index.html?hpt=T2

did we talk about this yet

"Bin Laden is dead. I didn't kill him. Please let me sleep now."

hahaha

I mean look at Bush's speeches for example, pretty much the entire left criticized every one because he "sounded dumb and uneducated" and mispronounced words and such, now imagine he was black (or half-black, durrr), the right would throw a shitfit over something like that and we'd never get to the bottom of whatever non-issue was being debated in the first place

*tries to imagines a black republican texan president*

all these war-on-terr'r-narrative conservatives spluttering sour grapes is like watching a bunch of robots malfunction

exactly, you have to wonder if Toby Keith's gonna rally them all with another song about the red, white, and blue; "i told you you'd get a boot up your ass"

Bun B 4 President

GEE I WONDER IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS AT WORK IN A BUNCH OF WHITE AMERICANS CALLING A BLACK GUY ARROGANT THAN THERE ARE IN THE ENTIRE CIVILIZED WORLD CALLING A PRIVILEGED RICH WHITE SOUTHERN DUDE DUMB

*faux-southern dude

exactly, you have to wonder if Toby Keith's gonna rally them all with another song about the red, white, and blue; "i told you you'd get a boot up your ass"

Toby Keith is a Democrat

I mean look at Bush's speeches for example, pretty much the entire left criticized every one because he "sounded dumb and uneducated" and mispronounced words and such,

tbf this was not "pretty much the entire left" -- it's closer to Bill Maher and the HuffPost crowd.

I think the only way Obama coulda avoided crit for his speech is if he delivered it as a knock-knock joke

at least bin laden didn't use a teleprompter! god

Toby Keith is a Democrat

for some reason I feel like this would make a great title for an EBM jam, somebody get on that

For those two young to remember, Clinton regularly withstood accusations of rape and murder. Like, literally rape and murder.

Yes. Hitchens still repeats as often he can the Kathleen Willey rape charges.

Willey was groping, Juanita Broddrick accused him of rape. When we reach the level of a GOP Congressman shooting a watermelon to prove that Obama is a murderer then the Clinton/Obama vitriol will have equaled out.

Typo certainly ruins it, but still, lol:

http://oi52.tinypic.com/k56xw.jpg

yeah aero, think about the people you've labelled as "arrogant" and your reasons for doing so

Willey was groping

can I say the first thing I thought of were boobies?

anyway the meme that's starting to take flight: torturing KSM gave the national security establishment its first real tip about bin Laden's most trusted aid, therefore torture worked.

*aide

"arrogance" -> "not knowing his place" -> "black man should know his place"

There have been bizarro call-outs referring to certain Obama things as arrogance that make absolutely no sense to me, and I really feel like most people have their moments of being arrogant.

I mean look at Bush's speeches for example, pretty much the entire left criticized every one because he "sounded dumb and uneducated" and mispronounced words and such

tbh i don't know of any american who reacted so disparagingly to GWB's presidential address immediately following the sept 11 attacks (the televised address, i don't mean the ground zero megaphone grandstanding). obviously there are different circumstances now, but to criticize obama for being arrogant in his oratory when the occasion called for gravitas and reflection is reveals a different standard is in effect for obama.

reflection is reveals

bin Laden's most trusted aid

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/31/kool_aid_2.gif

Also Obama is getting the double-whammy here of "arrogant black man" and "arrogant Ivy League elitist" and it's pretty much impossible to distinguish between the two

Although Keith has supported President George W. Bush, he says he is not a conservative

he's lucky he's not an ilx mod too

(jk)

n 2004, Keith called himself "a conservative Democrat who is sometimes embarrassed for his party".[14] He endorsed the re-election of President George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential election and performed at a Dallas, Texas, rally on the night before the election. Keith also endorsed Democrat Dan Boren in his successful run in Oklahoma's 2nd congressional district and is good friends with Democratic New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. In a January 2007 interview with Newsday, Keith was asked whether he supported the Iraq War. He responded with "Never did," and said he favors setting a time limit on the campaign. He also said, "I don't apologize for being patriotic... If there is something socially incorrect about being patriotic and supporting your troops, then they can kiss my ass on that, because I'm not going to budge on that at all. And that has nothing to do with politics. Politics is what's killing America."

xp: lol

Toby Keith is kind of an everyman of sorts

a terrific singer too!

elmo - I don't think you can really compare the 9/11 attacks to Osama's death, since the moments following 9/11 were really one of the few times in recent history where people really felt they needed to hear from the president. I mean the internet's first instinct to this whole thing is to joke about it, I dunno if that's much further from the public consciousness

Also Obama is getting the double-whammy here of "arrogant black man" and "arrogant Ivy League elitist" and it's pretty much impossible to distinguish between the two

Most conservative dead-enders square that circle by assuming he was an affirmative action beneficiary and therefore has nothing to be arrogant about in re: the latter.

yeah aero, think about the people you've labelled as "arrogant" and your reasons for doing so

do you have any particular occasions in mind? this is not generally a charge I level at people, "arrogance," the accusation in general often strikes me as a sort of "I'm out of shit to throw at you so I'm going to call you arrogant"

the diff btwn righty vitriol vs Bubba and Bam is if Archie Bunker's daughter married Mike Stivic or Lionel Jefferson

(and if they both bombed the shit outta civilians, but let's not muddy the issue)

so wtf is THIS address about, again?

Most conservative dead-enders square that circle by assuming he was an affirmative action beneficiary and therefore has nothing to be arrogant about in re: the latter.

Exactly what Trump has moved on to.

"arrogance" -> "not knowing his place" -> "black man should know his place"

There have been bizarro call-outs referring to certain Obama things as arrogance that make absolutely no sense to me, and I really feel like most people have their moments of being arrogant.

I guess I never really understood this viewpoint, we elected him as the leader of the free world, I'm not sure what someone would think his place isn't

I feel like opposition to Bush during his terms was warranted and for the most part, literate.

Frogbs-there were jokes during the post-9/11 speech too on the net. It's how some tried to deal with it.

Maybe you missed the past few years of people trying to claim he was an illegitimate president?

why am I even interacting with frogs

you guys, this song

http://hiphopwired.com/2011/05/02/50-cent-signee-releases-new-track-osama-bin-laden-is-dead-audio/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkMnjrA6iQ

that song can be summed up by the lyric "the great news made me lose my mind"

do you have any particular occasions in mind? this is not generally a charge I level at people, "arrogance," the accusation in general often strikes me as a sort of "I'm out of shit to throw at you so I'm going to call you arrogant"

Maybe as it pertains to celebrities or politicians? It gets leveled a lot at people who sound intelligent but inflexible who hold controversial viewpoints, like say Richard Dawkins. As far as Obama goes I think he does exude an air of authority that no president in recent memory has really had, which obviously some people like myself like, some don't

i figured the arrogance thing started (or blew up) with that Obama quote about clinging to god and guns

lololololol omfg @ this song

Can we talk about that song instead?

I can't because I'm speechless, but if someone else wants to...

we elected him as the leader of the free world, I'm not sure what someone would think his place isn't

Lots of people think his place isn't as the Leader of the Free World, in case you missed birtherism altogether.