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OK, real final EKOS results: http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2011/05/our-final-words-and-a-few-more-numbers-may-1-2011/

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 2 May 2011 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

guys osama bin laden is dead so i'm sure that . . . uh, go canucks?

mookieproof, Monday, 2 May 2011 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

what?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:04 (fifteen years ago)

layton killed bin laden!!!

dblake (symsymsym), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

in the massage parlour with a candle.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:10 (fifteen years ago)

This couldn't possibly affect a single vote one way or the other, right?

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2011 03:10 (fifteen years ago)

lol - was wonderin that. could help Cons?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

maybe we'll all feel so secure that voting will seem unimportant

dblake (symsymsym), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

could help Cons?

Man... Do you think?... I hope not.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:45 (fifteen years ago)

Like, if QC has been shifting NDP because of Afghanistan, maybe this could make the war seem more worthwhile...?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 2 May 2011 03:50 (fifteen years ago)

i noticed Harper lead off his address earlier en français.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

so i guess he thinks so.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

The election is lost you guys. Conservative voters will be patriotically energized by the killing of Bin Laden and will vote in droves, while liberal voters will be too busy writing lolBush comments on political blogs. First act of the new majority CPC parliament: extend the Afghan mission until the age of Buck Rogers.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 07:54 (fifteen years ago)

layton killed bin laden!!!
― dblake (symsymsym), Monday, 2 May 2011 04:08 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in the massage parlour with a candle.
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lol

salsa shark, Monday, 2 May 2011 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

also, aww:

http://www.google.ca/logos/2011/canadaelections11-hp.png

salsa shark, Monday, 2 May 2011 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

A more optimistic reading: a door is closed on a certain corner of history, one that Harper is associated with, and it redounds against him. Wishful thinking, I know. Truthfully, I don't think the events of last night will have any effect at all.

I understand the frustration NoTime expressed towards the Star above. I feel very much like a bandwagon-jumper myself today.

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2011 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

voted already last Monday, don't feel great about it though. our lib guy (Peters) is very young, but at least he showed up to the local debate.

Kim, Monday, 2 May 2011 12:27 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not saying that individual people shouldn't change their minds or jump on bandwagons and stuff, but it's irresponsible for the media to do it.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

Curious as to why that would be any more irresponsible when it's becoming more and more clear that their original position was untenable? Should they really have to go down with the ship and try to convince everyone else to do the same?

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Conservative voters will be patriotically energized by the killing of Bin Laden and will vote in droves

Hoping they all cast write-in votes for Obama!

(Still undecided myself - was considering Green, but now leaning towards NDP. Thank you, Sun Media.)

I was bored/trolling one day (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 2 May 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

should prolly depend on where your riding is. i think we're all about the strategic voting around these parts!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Sean - they never said their original position was untenable! Their reasoning was "the guy we originally picked isn't going to win, so we're supporting someone else now".

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, is there another way to interpret "until 10 days ago, (voters) had only one realistic alternative to the Conservatives — the Liberal party under Michael Ignatieff. Today, that is no longer the case." What changed ten days ago? The party platforms? Election issues? No, ten days ago the NDP passed the Liberals in the polls.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

I found that Star editorial from a couple of years ago supporting Harper harder to get my head around than their support of Layton this time. (I don't read the Star. They've had some pretty bad pop-music writers over the years, beginning with Peter Goddard.)

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2011 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

their baseball writer(s) also functionally retarded aswell.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 May 2011 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Ben Rayner is a great music writer. Their baseball writers are comically bad though (except Dave Perkins).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Barry, in the end it seems like ultimately their position is more "make sure Harper doesn't get a majority", then. I'm not gonna argue too much about their intentions as I haven't been religiously reading the Star anyhow. So I'm mostly just playing devil's advocate here!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

(Basically I just buy the Star on Saturdays and that's just to get the comics and crossword. :)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

it's raining in vancouver...that helps the cons, right? will depress young voter turnout?

dblake (symsymsym), Monday, 2 May 2011 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

Ben Rayner is a great music writer.

Hmmmm...I'd have to read him regularly. I have pretty strong opinions in that area; my guess is I'd disagree. Let me put it this way--if he's at all out of the Tim Perlich school of pop-music criticism, I'll take a pass.

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Raining in Montreal too but about to head out and vote.

Alex in Montreal, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

Went out earlier here in Mtl - poll workers here at Westmount-Ville Marie exceedingly polite.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

People in Guelph receiving phone calls saying that their polling office has been moved :S Dirty, dirty..

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

Harper is campaigning today in ABBOTsford, B.C. and Bin Laden was killed today in ABBOTTabad ... coincidence?? What can this mean??

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 May 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty funny: the government is going to prosecute people who Tweet or otherwise social-network early returns tonight. That's a very wise and simple battle to take up.

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2011 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Harper, good job urging people to vote Conservative on the radio today, even though it's completely illegal to do so:

http://www.examiner.com/canada-headlines-in-canada/stephen-harper-breaks-election-rules-campaigns-on-radio-on-election-day

Maybe we should push for this particular punishment:

with respect to certain offences, the deregistration of a party and liquidation of its assets, and the liquidation of the assets of the party's registered associations

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 2 May 2011 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

Harper didn't break any rules. the examiner and elections canada are just liberal-biased socialist institutions. that is all. didn't Layton break a law once? but we're not hearing about that today are we? i rest my case.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

did the good guys or bad guys win?

estkella (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:32 (fifteen years ago)

Won't know the end(-ish) results for another few hours, probably. Our polls in Toronto don't even close for another hour. I think it's an hour past that that BC polls close...?

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:35 (fifteen years ago)

Heard a bit this morning about the Twitter law...illegal to post any results until after final polls close, but the only way you'd get charged for contravening the law would be to have a complaint lodged against you...and even then it's not certain you'd face legal action, because in some cases the audience would be so small it'd be hard to make a case that leaking the results to your followers had any influence on the outcome at all.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

so does anyone want to take a guess at what result we'll see?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

But if you really want a head start on this apparently you can see info on Twitter with hashtag #tweettheresults (the site tweettheresults.ca, which was supposed to be aggregating this, got leaned on to stop).

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

(Though you'll have to wade through a crapload of joke posts to see anything useful.)

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

did the good guys or bad guys win?

I like this..."dude," but he seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

I'm in Ignatieff's riding, and he voted this morning at the same school where I vote (Sir Adam Beck). I'm glad I voted tonight and didn't encounter him. I would have kept my head down and avoided him. It would have felt like a betrayal, like when I went to Rogers last summer with cards for Cone and Henke to autograph, and sort of skulked past Sprague because I had nothing of his. (Yes, I know--like Ed Sprague would be deeply upset.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:22 (fifteen years ago)

I'm in Iggy's riding too. (Oddly, used to live in Jack's!) (And no, NO plans to move to Calgary any time soon to complete the set.)

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

i'm frightened.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

CBC and CTV have already called the election??

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

Majority or minority CPC govt TBD

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

cons are doing amazing so far.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:06 (fifteen years ago)


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