NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011

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Of course, if City finish fifth and lose the cup final to Stoke, City fans will be much less satisfied than Arsenal fans.

(Please, please, please make this happen)

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 25 April 2011 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

Well that is because most Arsenal fans are ghastly people.

But for what City spent, their season is in reality, a horrible mess. Ok so they may win the FA Cup, my bad.

Koscielny is one of the ten best centre halves in the league (and in his first season too - imagine what he can do next to Vermaelan instead of Squaillici), where did the hate suddenly spring from?

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 April 2011 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Well that is because most Arsenal fans are ghastly people

can we have a complete list of clubs that make fans say this btw?

ˆᴥˆ (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

arsenal fans, millwall fans, i guess parts of the rangers-celtic divide, often chelsea fans, leeds fans are dicks ime...

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 April 2011 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

So i see Darron Gibson joined twitter this morning but quit a couple of hours later cos of all the abuse.

Number None, Monday, 25 April 2011 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

King, Terry, Gallas, Cahill, Ferdinand, Vidic, Vermaelan, Kompany, Luiz, Distin, Hangeland, Roger Johnson, Djourou all better than Koscielny imo. But hey 2 of them are Arsenal players so you should be okay;)

what?...it's a penalty...piss off (pandemic), Monday, 25 April 2011 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

lolz king. also distin? or gallas for that matter?

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Oh and forgot about Dawson.

what?...it's a penalty...piss off (pandemic), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

So i see Darron Gibson joined twitter this morning but quit a couple of hours later cos of all the abuse.

― Number None, Monday, April 25, 2011 11:50 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ouch

mizzell, Monday, 25 April 2011 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

Distin, Jagielka, Kolo Touré, the list is endless rilly

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

also if i'd've known Gibson was on Twitter i'd've put the boot in for his time at Wolves too

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

lescott better than koscielny

i've got blingees on my fisters (darraghmac), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

gibson isn't very good but those ppl are cunts

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

football fans display sense of entitlement, bad manners. Film at 11.

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

nah they are just cunts and probably the same inadequates sending sycophantic tweets to vermin like ferdinand and rooney

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/search/%40rioferdy5 legend

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

those are not very nice tweets but y'know ime ppl on twitter are dicks anyway

i've got blingees on my fisters (darraghmac), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%40rioferdy5%20legend

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

SukhSidhu1 Sukh Sidhu
@rioferdy5 your a legend but that outfit your wearing in the pic @piersmorgan has put up is unforgiveable!
2 hours ago
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marc diamond
marcdiamond73 marc diamond
@
@rioferdy5 your a legend rio. Good luck to you and the team against shalke.
7 hours ago
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Ash Higginbotham
Higgy12_MUFC Ash Higginbotham
@
@rioferdy5 Rio your a legend go win the league for us :)
18 hours ago
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Finn Warren
finnlar Finn Warren
@
@rioferdy5 yeah I play for Oratory school U16's C team. RT please, your a legend!
23 hours ago
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David Oddy
davidoddy David Oddy
@wazzaroon08 Your a legend Wazza!U'll have more followers then @rioferdy5 in no time!
23 Apr
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Paul Hammond
djammo79 Paul Hammond
@
@rioferdy5 Rio your a Legend mate! #movement
23 Apr
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Mike Thomas
xMike_Thomas Mike Thomas
@rioferdy5 dodgy tackle there!! your a legend

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

"movement like pirlo", "better than carrick" - that doesn't sound so bad

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 April 2011 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

the thought that seven discrete and variably impaired mouthbreathers have told rio YOUR A LEGEND in 48 hours is

really

really

fucking

sad

;_;

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

Blackburn looking marginally too good to go down here

MPx4A, Monday, 25 April 2011 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

ah shit

prince of persia is on

what's the happenings

i've got blingees on my fisters (darraghmac), Monday, 25 April 2011 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

both teams going for it. rochina and kalinic on for rovers, dzeko on for city. 0-0 70th minute

mizzell, Monday, 25 April 2011 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

dzeko scores

mizzell, Monday, 25 April 2011 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

city filthy divers

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Monday, 25 April 2011 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

Some classic '10 year old child filmed hurling foul abuse at diving cunts' action there.

Genuflection X (oppet), Monday, 25 April 2011 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

prince of persua is a benni mccarthy of a film

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 April 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Premiership 2010/11 relegation special: who's staying up?

get voting, Blackburn are well in it

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 April 2011 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

bollocks I like benni

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Turning into bloody Liverpool:

PRESS RELEASE

25 April 2011

As loyal, long-term supporters of Arsenal Football Club we are disappointed in a number of recent
activities at the club. We are concerned that the Board is ignoring the views of its fans, and that the
Board is mistreating those who have been loyal to the club for many years.

We therefore call for the Board of Arsenal Football Club to consider the following points:

Season Tickets


Recognise that a large number of long-term season ticket holders are struggling to pay the
current high ticket prices charged by the club, especially in the current economic climate.

Cancel plans to hit season ticket holders with an inflation shattering increase to the cost of their
season ticket for the 2011/12 season.

Allow season ticket holders the ability to downgrade to a cheaper season ticket (if available) –
do not only allow upgrades.

Allow season ticket holders to give up their season tickets and downgrade to Silver
membership.

Allow season ticket holders with financial difficulties to give up their seat for a year, with the
option of buying it back the following season.

Offer season ticket holders the chance to pay for their season tickets in instalments, for
example three equal payments (even with an administration fee if it means clawing back lost
interest).

Offer a ‘swap shop’ where season ticket holders can swap seats with other season ticket
holders, should they want to move to another part of the ground.
Stadium Seating


Adopt practices of other Premier League clubs in moving away fans to the upper tiers i.e. more
expensive seating, thereby providing more affordable seating for Arsenal supporters. As it
stands, away fans have prime positions in the stadium at the lowest cost – to the detriment of
Arsenal supporters.

While we congratulate the club in finally renaming the stands at Emirates Stadium, we must
now allow season tickets at the Clock End of the stadium. The Clock End at Highbury was a
spiritual home to many long-term supporters, so a move such as this would be welcomed
greatly, and would help improve the match day atmosphere within the stadium.

We feel that an experiment of unreserved seating would allow like-minded supporters to sit
together. It would attract supporters to enter the stadium much earlier, and also help to improve
match day atmosphere.

Commercial activity


The Board should look to re-negotiate poorly struck commercial deals which are losing the club
millions of pounds in lost revenue; do not simply look to plug gaps by making already hard-
pressed supporters pay more.

Re-consider the current practice of releasing two new kits every year which further punishes
the pocket of paying fans.

Be respectful of club traditions and always look to keep our home kits red and white, and away
kits yellow and blue.
Ownership and Target Markets

If the information we’ve gathered from various media sources is accurate, we welcome reports that
the club’s new majority Shareholder, Mr Stan Kroenke, will be sympathetic to the concerns of Arsenal
supporters and look to preserve the club’s traditions. However we are concerned at the overemphasis
of the Board in targeting their ‘ideal’ match day demographic, namely corporate support and/or
affluent individuals to which premium priced ticket and dining packages can be sold.

While the corporate pound is currently big in football and helps to increase revenue greatly, the Board
needs to recognise that the majority of Arsenal supporters – hundreds of thousands of fans – are part
of what the club classes as ‘general admission’ support: the average football fan who comes to the
stadium to support his or her team.

This loyal, long-term support is what the club has been built on, and it’s important that our children
and their children can grow up supporting Arsenal Football Club and coming to see their team play.
By concentrating too much on premium pricing, the Board has already forced out many long-term fans
and continues to do so. Therefore when the corporates have gone (and they will be at some point)
there could be no more core support left to rely on.

Short-term greed can and will affect the club over the long term. The Board needs to realise the
importance of this.

The Manager

We want to see Mr Wenger repeat his early successful years with the club.

While we’re appreciative of what Mr Wenger has achieved for Arsenal in the past, we believe that the
manager should be held accountable for the success of the team and not the club’s balance sheet. It
is felt by many fans that since the departure of David Dein, Mr Wenger has taken on too much
responsibility at the club to the detriment of his team. As a major football club, Arsenal should be
competing for and winning trophies.

Supporters of Arsenal were sold a vision by the Board that we needed to move stadium to move on to
the next level, to become a “European Super Club” and that the costs of moving stadium would be
“ring-fenced” and not interfere with the playing side. So while we applaud Arsene Wenger and his
recent approach of bringing through younger players and achieving Champions League football while
turning a profit year on year in the transfer market, the club is here to win things. It’s widely reported
and felt that one or two world class additions to the squad can help us achieve success and we firmly
believe this.

With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
We will be able to negotiate better sponsorship deals, we’ll sell more merchandise, and the increased
income means that the hard-pressed support isn’t consistently expected to take on the burden of
swelling the club’s bank balance and profit margin.


The Chairman

We call for the immediate removal of Mr Peter Hill-Wood as Chairman of Arsenal Football Club. While
we recognise the traditions of the club and the Hill-Wood family’s presence at Arsenal which spans
decades, Mr Hill-Wood’s recent assertions that the club’s supporters are “Silly” and “Stupid” for doing
no more than voicing an opinion, is an utter disgrace.

Mr Hill-Wood would do well to realise that without supporters and their funding since the club’s
inception, Arsenal Football Club would not exist today.

A Chairman of any other company would find his or her position under severe threat for showing such
disrespect to those funding his or her company, and Mr Hill-Wood should be treated no differently. By
allowing him to remain as Chairman, this gives the message that the Board think it’s acceptable to
openly criticise and disrespect the club’s supporters.

“You are my Arsenal”

We call for all Arsenal fans who agree with our views and who want to see their Arsenal back, to join
us on a walk before the match against Aston Villa on Sunday 15 May.

We will meet outside Cannons pub on Blackstock Road at 2.30pm, and set off at 3pm.

Our route will take us along Elwood Street, where we’ll turn left into Avenell Road and walk past the
East Stand of our beloved Highbury. From there we turn right into Aubert Park, left into Drayton Park,
cross the bridge at the Clock End of the stadium, finishing at the roundabout in Hornsey Road outside
Emirates Stadium.

-ENDS

NOTES TO EDITORS

Where Has Our Arsenal Gone? is a group formed by a number of like-minded Arsenal fans,
concerned that the club they’ve supported for many years is losing touch with its fans; that the current
Board is more interested in making quick money, forgetting the values of the club and not caring that
long-term supporters are walking away.

We feel that if the Board continues in this way, it will greatly damage the future of Arsenal Football
Club. The club we grew up supporting, and the club we want our future generations to support.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

Re-consider the current practice of releasing two new kits every year which further punishes
the pocket of paying fans.

yeah i hate it when they come round your house with a gun and make you buy football kits

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

EURGH. SB ARSENAL FANS.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

We call for all Arsenal fans who agree with our views and who want to see their Arsenal back, to join
us on a walk before the match against Aston Villa on Sunday 15 May.

We will meet outside Cannons pub on Blackstock Road at 2.30pm, and set off at 3pm.

Our route will take us along Elwood Street, where we’ll turn left into Avenell Road and walk past the
East Stand of our beloved Highbury. From there we turn right into Aubert Park, left into Drayton Park,
cross the bridge at the Clock End of the stadium, finishing at the roundabout in Hornsey Road outside
Emirates Stadium.

Otherwise known as "getting to the ground".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.
With success and world class players on the pitch, comes the ability for further revenue generation.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

Just don't think we should have a manager who hasn't yet bought Messi, Ronaldo, Sneijder, Lucio and Lloris. Think of the money we could make if we had them!

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

I do wonder what hardnosed businessmen do upon receiving instructions from anonymous groups about e.g. the dangers of short-term greed.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently hundreds of lurkers here are organising a protest against the conduct of this thread.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Where Has Our Arsenal Gone? is a group formed by a number of like-minded Arsenal fans

*snigger*

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

"Short-term snarking can and will affect the thread over the long term. James Mitchell needs to realise the importance of this," is what they're saying, and I for one am reconsidering my entire approach to posting here.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

i am considering not releasing two zings a season that further hit the pockets of hard-pressed snark fans

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

I do wonder what hardnosed businessmen do upon receiving instructions from anonymous groups about e.g. the dangers of short-term greed.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:28 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hopefully they tell them to stfu.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah the Premiership really should be encouraging more clubs to dick over their fans with high ticket prices.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Al-Fayed was right, "Go and support Chelsea" (xp)

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Love this kind of fronting where fans organise a "protest" from a pub they were going to be in anyway to a stadium they were going to anyway, though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

"dick over". they have a product an astonishing amount of people want to see with only limited amount of tickets to sell. If people will pay for it, then people will pay for it. Also helps them get closer to affording going out an buying 1970s Ajax to immediately win everything like the fans want now.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

The rapid decline of the Old Trafford season ticket waiting list would probably prove otherwise, whatever the quality of the "product".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, I think the quality of the product is def the most important thing there. If Utd could still afford to show the likes of Ronaldo and Tevez every week, that wait list would still be huge.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

In which case Arsenal have a "product" that isn't as good as it used to be coupled with a stadium that's much bigger than it used to be and the highest ticket prices in the league. Even the lamest head-in-the-sand free-market footballing wonk can surely see that isn't sustainable.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Except the product has been getting progressively better over the past five years? Hey, you used to go see Silvestre and Aliadiere, now you go see Vermaelan and Nasri?

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:55 (fifteen years ago)


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