Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

This has been a long time coming. There is a lot of help for ethnic minority children in school and for girls, but the boys have no choice but to lag. The lack of male teachers to properly discipline them, is also a worrying factor.
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- Jenny, UK, 11/12/2008 17:01

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1133142/New-BBC-taste-row-police-probe-Jonathan-Ross-stand-Jo-Brands-anti-BNP-joke.html

Love the shoe-horning in of Jonathan Ross for extra "oh noes the moral fibre of this nation is being eroded by Friday night telly" bullshit.

Brand is an out an out NuLabour supporter and by being that, she has supported the social destruction of this country.
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Last night the BNP’s Simon Darby said: ‘The BNP is technically an ethnic group and, under Section 26 of the Race Relations Act, we would suggest there are grounds that an offence of incitement to commit racial harassment has been committed.’

Technically.

The Daily Mail on the side of right, as always.

Is it really worth siding with the BNP just to get at the BBC / Jonathan Ross / ZaNuLiArBore?

Get ready for the Big Freeze: Britain set to see heaviest snow fall since 2003

a quarter of an inch overnight then?

which then melts by 11AM?

One-armed presenter is scaring children, parents tell BBC

That comments thread is pretty much 100% behind the presenter, incidentally.

Given that no "parents" are actually named it smells like the usual Dacre brew.

I wonder how many more "complaints" will be added to the nine which already existed before the Mail decided to stir it up because it was a Good Story and Shows The BBC In A Negative Light.

as is the tone of the article, too

xp

Hopefully the increasing Come-Off-It-The-Mail response may persuade Dacre that banging on with this particular dead horse isn't going to win him any more circulation figures.

'This new presenter is c*** - face facts - but because she has a disability then she was given a job. [It is] positive discrimination in my books.'

I wouldn't like to see his books (though Scotland Yard might want to).

lol that guy doesn't read books

i initially misread that and thought the commenter was calling her "cunt-face"

What ever next! Will I be paying my licence fee to watch someone without any legs! Or will they be scaring my kids with someone with absolutely no limbs whatsoever! That'll give them nice DREAMS won't it! Give me my money back BBC and Pull your socks right up!

they would pull their socks up, but they're all too disabled.

Have they asterisked "cute"? Why?

Oh no; they mean "crap", right?

Yeah, they mean crap, which isn't really true. My wife always makes a thing of calmly explaining the presenter's one-armedness, cos her dad had a leg amputated and she'd love them to understand his experience, but the kids' reaction is along the lines of 'yeah okay Mum, whatever'. Kids of that age (0-5) encounter new stuff and different people all the time and someone with one arm is just another new thing that's not really quite as exciting to them as aliens or dinosaurs or Scooby Doo. The kids having nightmares are just reacting to their parents freaking out as much as anything else. Fuck those people.

Well, the disabled are just the latest addition to the media's list of convenient scapegoats, alongside the poor, the unemployed, public sector workers, asylum seekers.

The Daily Everybody's Fault Except Mine.

Heh, I thought they'd asterisked "cunt".

Social websites harm children's brains: Chilling warning to parents from top neuroscientist

GREENFIELD DECRIES EVIL WHEEL WHAT'S WRONG WITH WALKING OUR KIDS WILL ATROPHY AND DISSOLVE

Social websites harm children's brains: Chilling warning to parents from top neuroscientist

It's an interesting area, this (and Greenfield's comments strike me as a little more measured than Aric Sigman's last week), but Marcello's absolutely right: what are we meant to do? Turn off progress?

Without wishing to sound like some kind of parallel-universe HYS-er, we might do better to worry more about children's health and wellbeing in the present -- especially the way parts of society blame/demonise them for everything -- than getting upset about what is, arguably, an aspect of human evolution.

Of course, it's a Good Story and Greenfield might wangle some extra research money out of it. Not to mention the Mail's seeming desire for children to be stuffed and preserved in order to retain their "innocence."

bit of vicarious controversy for me here

god anyone who thinks the internet is turning us into aspies is obviously retarded.

Slightly more informative take on the same story, from the Guardian

might wangle some extra research money out of it

Yeh, well, I'm not necessarily going to blame her for that.

i think a bearded or legitimately ugly children's tv presenter would be newsworthy.

How about bearded, ugly and disabled? I hear David Blunkett's at a bit of a loose end.

xpost noel edmonds etc

Bearded, ugly and insane? That'd do.

I dunno; I'm fairly sure it's at least an overstatement and doesn't need the Mail to hand-wring it into their new evils-of-Facebook agenda, and I'm not at all convinced that our idea of normal childhood activities or interaction go back much before the war, and I think kids are pretty resilient, and anyway we farm them off to school for 6 hours a day - what more social training (with free bonus acclimatisation to 40-minute chunks of non-whizzing tedium) do you want?

But I do feel my attention span is a great deal shorter than it was pre-internet, and my inability to sit down and get stuff done without instant gratification for any effort and without frenetic alt-tabbing and mail-checking and ILX-F5ing makes me horribly anxious whenever a task not suiting that approach rolls along, and the idea that kids might never not have been in that kind of environment does make me wonder, a bit. Not sold that we're there yet, though.

I don't really have a point here, never mind any claims or otherwise of actual neurological change.

(xposts + not read Guardian article yet, will do so now)

We had the same rubbish spouted fifty years ago apropos television, and a century ago apropos the evils of moving pictures.

As Geoffrey Palmer has Sir Henry Ponsonby say in Mrs Brown: we cannot begin again.

I blame the magic lantern

And of course only middle class children are worth preserving in innocent aspic; back up the chimneys with the kids of the lower orders!

Have you been reading Iain Duncan Smith again?

Read the Guardian article now. "Devoid of cohesive narrative and long-term significance" - like most things which happen in life, then, what with us not all living in an epic Russian novel?

Think chatting on the internets has done more for my empathy than novels, tbh. Novel = linear plot, no need to wonder why characters are acting how they are, just keep turning page to find out what happens. Internets = oh gosh, these words out there are people with thoughts and feelings, ones which get articulated more comprehensibly (if you're lucky) than the playground "best mates ever" vs sulking vs bawling you may not have time to stop and analyse.

On the other hand, if we are changing in response to Bebo and Donkey Kong (do the kids still rescue princesses in their 3D deathmatches?) then it may be "evolution" handy for a new computer age, but we'd better hope that little problem of running out of oil never happens... oh, we all have to hope that anyway. Shit.

edmonds does not fit into modern children's tv utopia. "fresh faced" remember. he is from a more sordid age and is already overachieving speaking to himself on a budget treasure chest game.

And don't forget his programme on Sky (shudders).

For Kids Today who don't recall Hughie Green's "Stand Up And Be Counted" rant, Noel's re-enacting it every Saturday on Sky. Can't remember where else on ILx it was linked but here's a prime example.

When we stop respecting the ladies and gentlemen of our armed forces this country really is in a shocking state".

(xp) 30 years from now, Edmonds to be subject of sensitive BBC drama which paints him in an entirely new and sympathetic light, a la Hughie Green, Thatcher and other right wing scumbags

... and Whitehouse, of course. Where's the sensitive and sympathetic dramas about Mick McGahey and Red Robbo?

Knockabout Gerry Healy sex comedy.

Sophie Winkleman as Vanessa Redgrave.

^^ wd watch

prefer claudia tbh imo

I can see that working. Jimmy Cricket as Healy.