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One time a group of us went to go see Raging Bull in the Film Forum and the conversation the rest of the day was just like this:

Person A: (something completely innocuous about, like, pickles here)
Person B: What? You fuck my wife?!?!?!

it wasn't as funny the next day.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the opening shots, with the "be my baby"-scored jump cut, are some kind of formal breakthrough though.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, I think that's pretty great, Ally. But I'm kind of used to quoting movies with friends for years.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

for some reason my friends and i are always re-enacting the "i got some nice new dresses for you" scene, i find it endlessly amusing

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

someone do the "funny how?", quick.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I did the "funny how?" on that how well do you take compliments thread.

the "she's a tiger" and "take her for ice cream" scenes in Scarface have been referenced plenty any time I've been to a bar recently.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

RJG, YOU FUCK MY WIFE?@!?!?!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck how? like I was a clown?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i saw 5 minutes of "scarface" the other night while waiting for a video to rewind, which is as much as i've ever seen of it. what a strange film (if i saw a representative 5 minutes).

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

what did you see?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never understood what's good about Pacino's Scarface.

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

what did you see?
-- s1ocki (slytus...), August 19th, 2004.

a few close-ups of al pacino with cake makeup, driving a car, talking in a funny accent, then he visits his mother and sister an continues talking in a funny accent but with fewer close-ups.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i like carlito's way better

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

you'd prefer his orgasm face.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i love the VO in carlito's way: "so, here's me..."

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

I don't think MS really knows exactly what kind of movie it wants to be. It's kind of a loosely connected series of vignettes that attempt to sketch and pay quasi-nostalgic tribute to a half-remembered adolescent milieu. It's less cohesive than GF - perhaps it suffers from not being as explicitly autobiographical - there's no central figure with the ability to pull all the threads together. Plus the ending of MS is kind of boring and doesn't quite attain the tragic dimensions it would like to have.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

carlito's way was voted "best film of the 1990s" by cahiers du cinema!!

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

dear french people i love u

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

gros bizous monsieur s1ocki! i tip my beret to you!!!

ze french people, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

mwah mwah

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

My, this thread is active.

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

It could have only improved that movie. Would Anthony Michael Hall been a killer or a victim?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

it would certainly make that scene where they're smoking pot and running around a lot more intense

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And the eighties soundtrack is already in place!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Don't you EVER forget about me!" *fires gun*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

some friends of mine in college were talking a "topics in directorial approaches" class or something, and an assignment was to do a treatment of a "scorsese western." which seems to take auterism to a whole new asinine level, but the results were kind of interesting nonetheless.


amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I wholeheartedly recommend Joe Queenan's If You're Talking To Me, Your Career Must Be In Trouble and Confessions of a Cineplex Heckler to everyone here. Excerpts from the index should explain why.

"DeNiro
appropriate casting as character named Noodles, 76
first Spanish conquistador with Mott Street accent, 130-131
and Mickey Rourke, 72
and seal of confession, 58
and slime, 72
and slugs, 72
hair in Cape Fear resembling rat marinated in Vaseline, 148

Dunne, Griffin
traumatized by Joni Mitchell music, 142

Mastrantonio, Mary Elizabeth
influence of Pam Grier on, 38

Pacino, Al
trouble pronouncing the word "shit," 36

Scorcese, Martin
surprising ability to keep getting dates, 139"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

poor scorsese, forever stereotyped on the basis of his gangster melodramas.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he only REALLY made one

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, we could talk about Bringing Out the Dead if you like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

can we not please?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG that movie was so boring.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

From Mott Street, an unproduced Paul Schrader screenplay (acc. to Queenan):

A mook and a palook a are playing nine-ball for $1.69 a game in a dingy Little Italy social club. Suddenly a blonde named Carmella dressed all in white (camouflaging the semen on her skirt) gets out of a big yellow taxi and drops a rosary on the ground. As an aria from Donizetti wells up in the background, switch to an overhead shot of a wise guy firing five bullets, four of which miss, into the mook's neck, while three old men named Tommy holler "Yo, Mikey, whatsa matter with you?" The film now fades from color to black and white, save for the huge red neon light in the distance reading "JESUS SAVES."
"Hey Joey, didn't you used to be somebody?" the vamp asks the wounded man.
"No, that was my brother, Vinnie," he replies.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a film that was quickly forgotten. i thought it had some good stuff in it, and some fucking horrible stuff, like self-parody bad.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That was Nic Cage's attempt at penance for starring in Con Air, right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

miccio these jokes are tired and dumb thx.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

well, yeah, anybody who can earnestly say "poor Scorcese" would think that.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dude it's a figure of speech

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Casino is Scorsese's western!

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

and I loved Bringing Out the Dead =/

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

THE ROCK

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

well there goes all desire to check THAT scorcese flick out

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Color of Money is my favorite Scorsese movie from the eighties. Paul Newman's wonderful, Tom Cruise makes the dumb punk role work for him, Forrest Whittaker is sublime in his cameo, and "It's In the Way That You Use It" is definitely one of the better songs that Eric Clapton did in that decade.

Some of you are starting to sound like Jimmy Two-Times, "Mean Streets is so camp, Mean Streets is so camp..."

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

scorsese

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Pointing out typos on a message board is soooooooo camp, RJ.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Mean Streets, but more as an interesting warm up to what came later. It never occurred to me that people might think of it as some kind of masterpiece (I haven't seen it for years though, maybe I should).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not perfect, but no Scorcese film is. There's just more in it that I really like than in most of his stuff.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

goodfellas is my favorite gangster movie evah. i prefer it to any of the godfathers.

and it's definitely my favorite scorcese film.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

scorsese

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The spelling of Scorsese's name is a bit weird when you look at it repeatedly. The repeated "se" at the end is kind of like a typographical stutter. Actually it reminds me of the "organizized" joke in Taxi Driver - in fact, is that line perhaps an oblique directorial self-reference?

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)


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