New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

By being cut down or optimized, or what? I'm kind of confused what you're going at, but it might be because I'm a programmer and am thinking in different terms.

For what it's worth, 10.7 server edition is going to be on the same disc and be an install option, so it's not like they're removing much.

Trying to decide between a 13" pro and a 13" air. I don't think I have the chance to wait (depends on the insurance company). atm I'm thinking the air, because I'll never know the difference performance-wise, plus I can always upgrade the ram.

Can you?

actually no, thanks good point. probably worth getting 4gb as an option at purchase then.

Also consider that the Air doesn't have a CD/DVD ROM slot (if you even care in 2011, although MS Office only comes on a disc iirc) and the 11" doesn't have an SD card slot.

Oh and the MBP is cheaper and has more stuff.

Basically if you're not sure get the Pro.

hmm I would say the opposite but I guess it really comes down to how much you value portability

you can get office as a download now, and no, I don't care too much about cd/dvd.

It's a replacement for a £1300 pro (which I initially won in a competition), so I can get the 13" w/ extra ram.

so it comes down to light vs. heavier, core 2 duo vs. i7, flash vs. 500gb, and graphics.

Airs are amazing. The lovely Emma B has one and it really has gotten to the point now where, it's like, if you can throw your computer in your bag and not realize it's there, weight-wise, how much further does "lightness" matter in a computer?

Nah I mean the architecture of the 10.7 OS could take advantage of iOS-type chips, given the UI is already going that way.

i don't understand this.

Airs really are amazing. 13" Pros seem like something from 2002 in comparison

Oi, I love my new 13" (SSD) Pro. 2002 was never like this.

True, it's the SSD that makes the difference.

caek, I think AA is coming from some sort of gestalt theory of how a macintosh is formed instead of recognizing how hardware and software work.

good work being patronising there

Yeah, I failed, I meant you and not AA.

Sorry, Autumn Almanac!

But in all seriousness, I did ask for clarification upthread.

Sorry, Autumn Almanac!

That's okay, mh!

Perhaps I wasn't clear because (a) I'm coming off an illness and (b) I'm smashing off quickposts at work. The 10.7 UI has been influenced by the iOS UI in many ways (the effectiveness/shallowness of which is probably up to interpretation). My point was that the ~guts~ of 10.7 could well be rebuilt to properly take advantage of the sorts of chips that go into iOS sorts of devices. I don't know, perhaps OS X is designed in such a way that it can exploit a whole new chipset (CPU, GPU, whatever) without a major release, but from a requirements perspective it does seem logical that Apple would, taking into consideration the iOS stylings from a visual standpoint heads up going forward, choose to debut A5 etc support in Lion, thereby delivering this whole release as the first to run on what could well be a near-future release of the new iAir i.e. essentially an ipad + keyboard with a price to match. Look I don't know, perhaps iOS and OS X are now forks of the same lump of crazy gravy that is The Apple Operating System Of The Future in which case I would be talking shit, but if we knew that to be a fact then it would mean that Apple's wall of secrecy has failed and we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.

The guts between iOS and OS X are the same -- iOS is built on the same core as Mac OS X (which was built on the same core as NeXTSTEP).

Changing from PPC to Intel chips was just a point release. In theory there could be an ARM-based Mac, but it would need another version of Rosetta to run all the intel apps out there, and they'd run slow and you'd lose the point of the Arm chip in the first place.

Lovely, cheers.

think its time for a new iphone :( roll on june

My point was that the ~guts~ of 10.7 could well be rebuilt to properly take advantage of the sorts of chips that go into iOS sorts of devices.

As stet mentioned, iOS is a branch/derivative of OS X. The problem with A5 and such is that there are actually fewer things there to take advantage of! It's a low-power chipset that has a high level of integration, but all things considered, it doesn't have all the features of an i7 or even Core Duo chip.

Apple has never made a secret of the fact that iOS is the same core. It's kind of painfully obvious considering the tools for development are public, and even before that was provided, people jailbreaking devices were able to take advantage of their knowledge of unix/OS X to do what they do.

iOS Core OS description on Apple's site

So wait, I am not crazy and Schlafsack and Autumn Almanac are the same person?

DG, all reputable sources are saying it's going to be at least September before we see new phones. :/

nooooooooooo

Getting the macbook air 13" in the end!

Look I don't know, perhaps iOS and OS X are now forks of the same lump of crazy gravy that is The Apple Operating System Of The Future in which case I would be talking shit, but if we knew that to be a fact then it would mean that Apple's wall of secrecy has failed and we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.

fwiw, this is the part that confused the hell out of me, because Apple has never kept this a secret!
Steve Jobs: iPhone runs Real OS X. June 4, 2007.

new iphones in sept makes me hope-think that ipod touches will get a cell chip. unlikely, i know, but i hope so much!

does anyone have the 2010 unibody mac mini? what's the performance like?

DG, all reputable sources are saying it's going to be at least September before we see new phones.

thankfully. maybe they can make some computers in the interim.

can't. too busy putting some iphone gesture bullshit into os x and calling it 10.7.

Mission Control, Versions, and the Resume functionality look ok!

Wow, cheers for that iOS Core link, I had no idea Apple was telling everyone about it. So if the iOS/-X monster core is already built tough and A5 is just a chip that does fewer things then that person upthread should just buy whatever it was that (s)he was going to buy before I got involved.

I made a second account to use from work (for a host of reasons, none of which involve socks) but gave it a stupid name and now I'm stuck with it.

Sounds like rubbish to me but http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/index.php/20110503/devices/8804/hot-rumor-apple-ipad-3-to-be-fully-3d/

[...] Apple’s third generation tablet, already in the advanced planning stages and very much 3D, we’re told.

“The fact that the iPad 3 is 3D is a dead cert,” one Hollywood insider close to the big movie studios told RCR, adding that the screen would be the real magic. She went on to say that the big film studios were currently running around like blue arsed flies trying to gear up to release plenty of 3D content in time for Apple’s next launch.

bullshit

lol

yeah, there's absolutely no way.. the ONLY 3d thing i can imagine apple would consider for the ipad is the eye-tracking pseudo-3d stuff

also i am lusting after the new imac i just ordered!!!

http://i.imgur.com/MF82X.jpg

RIP

mbp died :(

started making strange noises, guessing the HD is fucked. surprised it lasted so long, i made it out of two broken macbooks. everytime i took it apart i'd be left with a bunch of screws and no idea where they're meant to go, or i'd lose screws in the carpet or my shoe or something. the top keyboard bit is attached with 3 screws at the mo hehe

anyway, psyched about buying one of those new iMacs, my first new apple product. for any uk ppl andertons do excellent 0% finance options that i haven't seen elsewhere...

http://www.andertons.co.uk/apple-computers/cid608/apple-computers.asp

Found an ipad2 in my pillow @ approx 3am this morning. woooo!

Tooth fairy feeling generous?

i dont think any of my teeth fell out

I'll knock your teeth out.

charming.

NINETY-NINE DOLLARS AND NINETY-FIVE CENTS

lol

so i've been thinking about getting a new computer

macbook air seems ~amazing~ but i'm leery of its lack of juice. macbook pro 13" seems pretty ideal but i'd want an external monitor for it. but i just realized something: the price of a mbp is the same as a 21.5" imac (with better spec). and the cost of an external monitor is only hair less than the cost of something like an ASUS netbook.

tell me why it would be dumb/annoying/whatever to have a netbook/imac combo instead of a laptop/external deal?

also i searched for a 'netbook' thread and couldn't find one---what's the ilx hivemind think of them? all i do w/my laptop when i'm out and about is email/web stuff.