DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

Isn't the basic plan "give all the budgets to the GPs" ?

No wonder Clegg GP would have approved...

people like you somehow doesn't quite have the right man-of-the-people ring to it

...and plenty of doctors left the UK after the war to do research in the US because the NHS was primarily about palliative care.

volunteering spirit

o_O

re that, this is from last year but it's still good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty3Tlf4Th8U

If you plan to reduce the number of migrants coming to the UK, maybe stop bombing places? Think we did this already with Blair iirc.

don't recall blair bombing poland tbh

would have needed the builders otherwise?

iirc the 'line' on libya was that it was done to stop migration...

The 'immigrants should learn English' stuff really grates - it's already a requirement for a visa for almost anyone coming from outside the EU. Even if you're married to a UK citizen, you need to be able to prove with a secure English language test, that you can speak / understand elementary English. The way the system was introduced was monumentally cack-handed, though. Immigrants wanting a Spouse visa need a test that meets certain minimum standards of reliability and security. All of the tests approved by the UKBA are either unsuitable, limited in their international availability or require an extremely lengthy wait for booking / results.

English-language learning programmes for immigrants already here have been cut to the bone at the same time.

Things are going wrong when the BNP can accuse you of breathtaking cynicism on immigration policy.

Usually h8 the Daily Mash but 'Cameron to tackle rise of the BNP by doing exactly what they want' made me lol today.

English-language learning programmes for immigrants already here have been cut to the bone at the same time

Yes, the government seems particularly idiotic in this area. "We'll make them speak English and we'll do this by making sure none of them get English lessons."

Yeah the Daily Mash seems to have been getting increasingly right wing lately but that one was pretty good (xp)

Government reaches sell-by date

I'm sure this was the last govs idea.

some people seem to be complete idiots about "Best Before" dates so it could probly use a shake-up. Or improving basic standards of education, either way really.

So we can control both legal and illegal immigration as I hope I've demonstrated. What is required is political will and the drive to make sure this agenda runs right across government. But the third argument put forward by those who say we can't control immigration is that immigration is not just a problem of supply but of demand.

Put simply, immigration will always be high because British people won't do the jobs migrant workers do. We've all heard this argument. I can see why this argument is made. Since 1997, the number of people in work in our economy has gone up by some 2.5 million.

And of this increase, around seventy-five percent was accounted for by foreign born workers, many of whom were employed to clean offices, serve in restaurants or work on building sites.

At the same time we have had persistently, eye-wateringly high numbers of British born people stuck on welfare. But let's be clear about what our conclusions should be from this. This is not a case of 'immigrants coming over here and taking our jobs'. The fact is - except perhaps in the very short-term - there are not a fixed number of jobs in our economy.

If one hundred migrant workers come into the country, they don't simply displace job opportunities for a hundred British citizens. Of course they take up vacancies that are available, but they also come and create new wealth and new jobs.

The real issue is this: migrants are filling gaps in the labour market left wide open by a welfare system that for years has paid British people not to work. That's where the blame lies - at the door of our woeful welfare system, and the last government who comprehensively failed to reform it.

Where does that come from?

It's as if the choices made by employers don't even factor into their thinking.

subtext: employers favour the cheapest most compliant workers

Matt DC - http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2011/04/David_Cameron_Good_immigration_not_mass_immigration.aspx

It's so obvious that he doesn't actually believe this, I'm used to Cameron doing massive rhetorical contorsions but this is probably beyond him.

is there some poll-based reason why he's been courting racist twats for the last month? BNP tipped to do well in May?

It's possible he fears that the working class racist twat vote will swing against him, either to the BNP/UKIP/English Democrats but also potentially back to Labour. Given the choice of businesses being able to employ cheap immigrants or more expensive British people I know fully well which side of the divide Cameron would sit on, every time.

"competitive labour market" being a Tory mantra and all

Of course the long game is that if you make life so shit for the British unemployed that they'll do anything, you won't need as many immigrants in the first place.

oh i'm sure they would prefer UK citizens to work for shit money with no rights but that game is probably shut down as an option now, no reasonable sized employer worth his party membership gives a fuck where his cheap labour comes from and i'm sure Cam'ron doesn't either really

Being as the man has never had a job that wasn't arranged for him, I think he probably does actually believe this crap! Remember, this is a guy who thinks he's got street cred for talking to shopkeepers and market traders in Edgy Ladbroke Grove.

For compliant, read 'easily intimidated and unaware of their rights due to being fresh off the boat', not to mention the casualization of jobs that used to come with pensions, salaries and employment rights. Yes, I really love that my block's caretaker is going to be replaced by some random sweep from Veolia - despite the fact that nobody who actually pays for our caretaker wants this to happen.

xp

cept obviously he's a PR goon so he doesn't know/care fuck all about manufacturing sector and other anachronisms

For compliant, read 'easily intimidated and unaware of their rights due to being fresh off the boat'

no absolutely suzy, wasn't implying that compliance was anything other than a consequence of circumstances

Cameron's big problem this morning was whether or not he'd wear morning dress to the Royal Wedding because he was worried about looking like a posh git.

NOW he's worried? The only way to avoid such an outcome in his case is to don a niqab.

dunno how you can get a royal wedding invite and not look a posh git unless u turn up as a pearly king/queen

or a white Fiat Uno for the lulz

lol Delingpole:

His reward? Translation to the House of Lords plus a stint as EU Trade Commissioner where he was responsible for tariff cuts. What possible benefit have they been to us? To be fair, this “big prizes for losers” system doesn’t apply only to Labour MPs. Some Conservatives too have learned to milk it very effectively, most notably Chris Patten. As a special treat for masterminding his party’s electoral defeat in 1992 he was first made governor of Hong Kong, then – like Kinnock – made an EU commissioner, then he was made a life peer and is now chancellor of Oxford University and chairman of the BBC Trust.

there should be some sort of website where we, the people, can officially vote on what we want our prime minister to wear to the royal wedding. i vote burkini.

http://fashion.mirror.co.uk/css/cameron%27s-shorts.jpg

http://www.chippingnorton.net/images/davidsteps.JPG

mis-read that as 'NO C*NTS'

or a white Fiat Uno for the lulz

― A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:00 (3 days ago)

It took a second for this one to sink in. Arf.

It's a good thing Dominic Raab gained the votes of over 50% of his constituents, yes?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13193685

presume he's planning some 'Misery' style kidnap action for young Wills

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_02/035johnloughrey_468x662.jpg

I think we've found Cameron's look for the wedding

Camping out in front of Westminster Abbey? If only there was some kind of soup kitchen set up in the area where people could get a hearty meal.

Amazing fiddling of the figures here:

New figures from the National House Building Council show that the number of new homes registered in March was the highest since November 2007.

[..]

About 2,800 of those were for accommodation in the athletes village at the 2012 Olympics in London.

Gie ye the fuckin' boak, so it wid

nadine bloody dorries

apparently her mental abstinence bill passed by 6 because no one turned up

http://educationforchoice.blogspot.com/2011/04/abstain-from-abstinence-please-dorries.html

The Taliban would be proud.

mental abstinence

slightly misread this, and it struck me as a good summary of dorries' m.o.