layton looking better now
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
Sund4r -- Kelly McParland's article is OTM. I think all the parties agree that no matter what the military's responsibilities are going to be, they should be well-equipped. But Layton is playing a cheap brand of politics, he's basically saying "which do you prefer, should we spend $20B on stuff that won't directly affect you personally, or should we spend $20B on job creation (= do you want us to put money in your pocket)?" Not only is that a false binary, it's a totally misleading way to think about defense spending. I know there's a link between defense and job creation (I wrote about it upthread) but I wouldn't sell my defense budget as just another job creation plan.
I'm not saying that the Liberals have it all figured out though ... and I'm not saying that I agree with the F-35 purchases either.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
BE hard on him. He's a goddamn LECTURER.
And yeah, Harper is lying his fegging ass off here and saying it in a soothing condescending tone which is, sadly, going to work a whole lot better than the arm flailing of his supposed main competition here.
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
WTF is Ignatieff on now? "Let some flowers bloom"??
xpostBE hard on him. He's a goddamn LECTURER.
So am I.:P
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)
ya. sadly otm
xpost
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)
The way Duceppe looks at Harper is actually quite terrifying.
― everything, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)
Harper is handling himself depressingly well...
He always does ... he let's the other leaders get riled up over stuff, while he chills out and tries to sound "leader-like".
I LOLed
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
...though admittedly Ig seems to have found his feet a bit better since the beginning of this thing!(xpost)
The big diff Sund4r is you're not running for PM. :)
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
sweet. now what we've been arguing about is the official subject.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:41 (fifteen years ago)
haha is "let xxx flourish" and "shut down everything you can't control" Iggy's answer to EVERYTHING??
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I take back my comment about his feet. Maybe they're walking down the street looking for a wine bar or something. >:(
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
i do hate the way harper is talking
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:44 (fifteen years ago)
"i'm stephen harper and this is my indoor voice."
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
Just thought I'd say stunningly repetitive again.
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
xpost. LOL @ indoor voice. It is incredibly obnoxious. If he's trying to be presidential he's way off the mark.
― everything, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:46 (fifteen years ago)
everyone else sounds hysterical by comparison tho
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:46 (fifteen years ago)
lol at "stiffed"!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
Point for Iggy there!
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
you STIFFED parliament ...
xpost!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
he needs to sound more like that less like a recorded talking point
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
Iggy's made a few good zingers. He comes across as a real guy. Harper's just on a script.
― everything, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
"WE MET IN A HOTEL ROOM"
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
ding!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
ding! ding! ding!
Can I vote for Duceppe somehow, please?
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
This is a brilliant debate!
― everything, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
making iggy look so goodright now
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
he just needs to stfu and watch
he talked :(
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
The stream paused when Layton said to Ignatieff "Why have you been Mr Harper's b..." I know he probably said "best friend" but in my heart and mind, he said "bitch".
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
Harper making my skin crawl now with blatant lies about how our system of government works.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:55 (fifteen years ago)
Harper fixed: "I simply don't accept the truth."
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:58 (fifteen years ago)
I'm kind of misquoting but "I simply do not accept the truth..." should be Stephen Harper's personal motto.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:58 (fifteen years ago)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
Ow, Iggy sounded pissy there in response to a good point from Layton, and that wasn't a good sound for him.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)
Self-righteous, that is.
he didn't respond, really.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
Man, I used to really like Duceppe.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
no. he got him.xpost
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
Layton's has came prepared with a bigger arsenal than Iggy who keeps returning to the "respect for democracy" stuff. Which is all well and good, but when Layton brings up voting reform or Iggy's voting record, it sounds refreshing. People do give a shit about those things.
― everything, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
I don't think Iggy's hit Layton with anything substantial.
― everything, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
OK, Duceppe's winning me back a little.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
Ugh. This "Bill 101" bit kind of physically hurts.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
THIS IS NOT THE FRENCH DEBATE.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, good work raising a lower-profile issue like cuts to Immigration Settlement Services, Jack.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:10 (fifteen years ago)
well, it sort of on subject for once.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:11 (fifteen years ago)
(Wasn't being sarcastic btw)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)
i realize Harper has a "lying voice"
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)
ha ha - sorry!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:13 (fifteen years ago)